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Urine in new builds

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  • RHemmings
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    edited 1 October 2023 at 10:26AM

    It's not an unusual "hang up" by the way; we have a motorhome and there are a surprising number of people who will buy a used MH but have the bathroom fully replaced because they won't use a toilet/shower that someone else has used.  Personally, I think a good clean with a steam cleaner will sort it out to an acceptable standard,
    Personally I'd go even more minimalist and give it a good wipe down with some disinfectant, have a good scrub with a new toilet brush and one of those foaming tablet things, flush, and I'm good to go. For a shower, just a good wipe with disinfectant. Though, for the house I'm in, I'm not sure I did even that...

    Not meaning to criticise other people. Just giving my own viewpoint. 
    Ybe said:

    To be honest, I have no issue with a toilet someone else has used in a resale property. That is expected. What bothers me is that someone has urinated in an unplumbed toilet in a new building sold as a new build. It smelt like a public toilet. That is not normal and I question anyone who thinks it is on how they use their toilet at home. 
    But, I agree that for a new build, it should be pristine. I have no problem buying second hand plates from a charity shop or using re-used plates at a restaurant if they have been cleaned adequately. But, if I went into a shop selling new plates and they had actually been used, I wouldn't want them. New is new. 

    I do realise that a house is very different from a plate!


  • robatwork
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    Ybe said:
    If you knew half the stuff that goes on a construction site this would be the least of your concerns 🤣🤣

    Point it out at your peril as who knows what they might do to your house next.....

    As long as it is exchanged and delivered clean and tidy on completion that's all that matters and start your snag list on every visit.
    What could be worse than soiling a new building?  They might have done a number 2 in some places too. The site management clearly don’t care. 
    As soon as I saw this thread I was reminded of the builders of the newish stadia in London - Arsenal and the other lot more recently. Naturally the builders included fans of the rival clubs - several of whom did exactly that in during the build of both. As you'd expect  :D
  • theartfullodger
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    My understanding (first worked on building sites in 1960s..) is that there is a tradition of peeing in bathroom  fittings when the are first installed #.

    It's only urine (a folk-medicine free cleaner) - some might suggest the growing of more than one...

    Best wishes to all 
  • Ybe
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    My understanding (first worked on building sites in 1960s..) is that there is a tradition of peeing in bathroom  fittings when the are first installed #.

    It's only urine (a folk-medicine free cleaner) - some might suggest the growing of more than one...

    Best wishes to all 
    And it should stop. People pay a premium for a new build which is meant to be new. If it’s used it’s not new anymore. 
  • Dustyevsky
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    edited 2 October 2023 at 5:51AM
    I don't know if the late Queen expected her bog in the Royal Box to be unsullied when visiting for the Cup Final, but I clearly remember peeing in it when I was a child! There again, I don't know if she used it either!
    "There is no such thing as a low-energy rich country." Dr Chris Martenson. Peak Prosperity
  • Ybe
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    I don't know if the late Queen expected her bog in the Royal Box to be unsullied when visiting for the Cup Final, but I clearly remember peeing in it when I was a child! There again, I don't know if she used it either!
    That is completely different. You expect people to use a public toilet. A brand new toilet you pay a premium for and isn’t plumbed yet is different. And then to use it in such a way that causes a stench of urine to be left behind is disgusting and uncivilised behaviour. 
  • RHemmings said:

    It's not an unusual "hang up" by the way; we have a motorhome and there are a surprising number of people who will buy a used MH but have the bathroom fully replaced because they won't use a toilet/shower that someone else has used.  Personally, I think a good clean with a steam cleaner will sort it out to an acceptable standard,
    Personally I'd go even more minimalist and give it a good wipe down with some disinfectant, have a good scrub with a new toilet brush and one of those foaming tablet things, flush, and I'm good to go. 



    Not going into detail or derailing this thread, but that's not an option in a motorhome toilet.  It isn't plumbed in and you can't/shouldn't use things like bleach either - which is what I would do in a house - because some disposal points are septic tanks or cess pools.
  • Dustyevsky
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    Ybe said:
    I don't know if the late Queen expected her bog in the Royal Box to be unsullied when visiting for the Cup Final, but I clearly remember peeing in it when I was a child! There again, I don't know if she used it either!
    That is completely different. You expect people to use a public toilet. A brand new toilet you pay a premium for and isn’t plumbed yet is different. And then to use it in such a way that causes a stench of urine to be left behind is disgusting and uncivilised behaviour. 
     I think the building of a Royal Box is comparable to a new build. It certainly doesn't have a 'public toilet!' 
    However, nothing I've said is intended to contradict the points you've made about a new property being of acceptable cleanliness at hand-over. My point, since you missed it, is that none of us knows the exact history of new things we buy or, as in the case above, have provided by the State.

    "There is no such thing as a low-energy rich country." Dr Chris Martenson. Peak Prosperity
  • Ybe
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    Ybe said:
    I don't know if the late Queen expected her bog in the Royal Box to be unsullied when visiting for the Cup Final, but I clearly remember peeing in it when I was a child! There again, I don't know if she used it either!
    That is completely different. You expect people to use a public toilet. A brand new toilet you pay a premium for and isn’t plumbed yet is different. And then to use it in such a way that causes a stench of urine to be left behind is disgusting and uncivilised behaviour. 
     I think the building of a Royal Box is comparable to a new build. It certainly doesn't have a 'public toilet!' 
    However, nothing I've said is intended to contradict the points you've made about a new property being of acceptable cleanliness at hand-over. My point, since you missed it, is that none of us knows the exact history of new things we buy or, as in the case above, have provided by the State.

    I don’t think I’d care if it’s used if I didn’t notice the foul stench either.  Even in a new build. 
  • Postik
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    As other have said, I'd be concerned about more serious things, from weak mortar (probably an uncommon issue) through to pipes that leak through your ceiling and require your ceiling to be hacked open and replaced (almost guaranteed in a new build).

    I imagine the property will be cleaned before handover.

    If you had workmen over to do a job for you and they asked to use the loo I'm sure you would say yes. I think taking the approach that a loo is new and therefore you should be the first to pee in it is taking things a bit too far. Might be different if the workmen cooked a full roast dinner in the oven and then used the dishwasher afterwards.
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