Should I be doing 20mph or 30mph

Since wales have reduced the speed limit you don't know where you are with all the different speed limits in my area so can someone tell me if I should be doing 20 or 30mph along this stretch of road as I don't want to get caught by the speed camera van. 

These signs have changed from 30mph to 20mph.
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.674289,-3.019383,332.58h,-8.9p,1z,MSg2OZ9sMnll2W8QQmo6hQ

Coming from the other direction this sign is still 30mph
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@51.68814,-3.023498,140.98h,10.16p,1z,2-7nIuRRW9ROqMDvazXCaA
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  • Barkin
    Barkin Posts: 375
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    I can't see any speed limit signs in the 2nd link... 

    A stretch through a village near me recently had it's limits reduced from 30 to 20, and from 40 to 30.
    It took a few weeks before all the signs and road markings aligned. 

    Just stick to 20mph max. if you're not sure?
    It won't alter your journey time significantly!
  • As there are exceptions which remain 30, there is no way a court could prosecute you in a 30 signed area. You would undoubtedly get a ticket from a speed van as it probably has had its 20 mph sign overlooked. The issue would be proving that it was a 30mph sign the day you drove through it
  • la531983
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    I read somewhere that one road is remaining 30 because they couldn't work out how to amend the average speed cameras on the road. Whole thing is a farce. 
  • Yorkie1
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    If you are in Wales, and the street lamps are every 198 yards apart (or less), and there are no repeater signs, then it is a restricted road and subject to 20mph. If there are repeater signs saying 30mph (or otherwise) then it's 30mph (or whatever the repeater signs say).

    Basically, the new legislation has simply said that if it looked like a 30mph zone before, it's now a 20mph zone.

    The local council will have to pass a byelaw to make it 30mph now, where before it had to use byelaws to make it 20mph.
  • cymruchris
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    You should be able to check the current status of any road in Wales through the following link:


    Click on 'display in map viewer' once the page is open.
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  • I don’t think speed cameras work at 20mph
  • Aretnap
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    I don’t think speed cameras work at 20mph
    Gatsos (one of the most common types of fixed yellow box died cameras) are only type approved for speeds of 30mph or above. Or at least they were a few years ago - it may well have changed since I last checked. That's presumably the origin of this urban myth.

    However most tyres of speed camera, speed gun etc have no such restrictions and can be used for  any speed.
  • facade
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    Yorkie1 said:
    If you are in Wales, and the street lamps are every 198 yards apart (or less), and there are no repeater signs, then it is a restricted road and subject to 20mph. If there are repeater signs saying 30mph (or otherwise) then it's 30mph (or whatever the repeater signs say).

    Basically, the new legislation has simply said that if it looked like a 30mph zone before, it's now a 20mph zone.

    The local council will have to pass a byelaw to make it 30mph now, where before it had to use byelaws to make it 20mph.
    So if you are on a road with streetlights that isn't a motorway, you drive at 20 until you pass a 30mph sign, then you can continue at 30 until either you turn off the road or you pass a 20 sign, when you must be doing 20.

    Strictly, the 30 limit would become unenforceable  (and therefore default back to 20) if the 30 mph repeaters were not "regularly spaced" which is assumed to be every 200 yards- approx every 8 lamp posts in a built up area, might be every lamp post on a dual carriageway.

    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

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  • Herzlos
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    la531983 said:
    I read somewhere that one road is remaining 30 because they couldn't work out how to amend the average speed cameras on the road. Whole thing is a farce. 

    Up in Edinburgh they just disabled the cameras and changed the road limit.

    Though why they didn't leave them working to catch people doing over 30 I don't understand.

    If you're unsure, I'd do the lower limit and stay out of trouble. You'd have a nightmare of a time proving a 30 sign was in place if it's taken down after the incident.
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