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Demand Flexibility Service 2023 (and beyond!)

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  • Yet they expect a much higher take-up this time round - perhaps they're hoping the wider audience will outweigh the ones who'll not think it worth the effort.
  • QrizB
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    edited 14 September 2023 at 10:08PM
    Yet they expect a much higher take-up this time round - perhaps they're hoping the wider audience will outweigh the ones who'll not think it worth the effort.
    I participated last time and my total returns over the entire winter were under £2.
    I'm planning on participating this time, too. It's not the money, it's the challenge.

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  • QrizB said:
    Yet they expect a much higher take-up this time round - perhaps they're hoping the wider audience will outweigh the ones who'll not think it worth the effort.
    I participated last time and my total returns over the entire winter were under £2.
    I'm planning on participating this time, too. It's not the money, it's the challenge.

    Fair enough.  If it were just me, or with the addition of a similarly-minded partner, I'd probably feel similarly (and would enjoy feeling like I'm contributing to an effort for a purpose, too).
  • MultiFuelBurner
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    edited 15 September 2023 at 9:50AM
    I have not read the docs but will the suppliers  come up with something fancy at their end if uptake is low?

    If they bid and get £3 per kWh saved its in their interest to make it worthwhile?

    Or perhaps I have that all wrong.
  • Yet they expect a much higher take-up this time round - perhaps they're hoping the wider audience will outweigh the ones who'll not think it worth the effort.
    I get the impression there’s going to be a lot more publicity this time around with a bigger “marketing” push for the scheme, with participating suppliers also now being required to promote the scheme. If I recall, each supplier will, as a minimum, have to have a dedicated webpage for DFS with further communications to consumers strongly encouraged. 

    Whether or not that’ll actually get more people involved is hard to tell - supposedly people making full use of the IDA were a minority to begin with but with the rewards now being unaltered many from last year might well not bother.

    I’ll probably still give it a go myself where possible, but as a low user with minimal use over peak times anyway I’m not expecting more than around 30p per event on a good day.
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  • dealyboy
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    I've never been invited  :(
  • On this subject I noticed something not ticked on my smart meter preferences with Octopus so I ticked it knowing it's probably essential for this DFS scheme.


  • I’ll probably still give it a go myself where possible, but as a low user with minimal use over peak times anyway I’m not expecting more than around 30p per event on a good day.
    Yes that is where I am at for this winter.  For a couple of quid I bust a gut last year, but for pennies meeh.  And if we only get to know on the day, it is a little difficult to re-gig my largest leccy usage at peak-time (cooking) if stuff is being defrosted for the meal according to menu for the day.  No big deal.  Some of us over at Eon Next got a taste of these new conditions at the latter part of last winter wnen the event reward parameters were changed by the company.   
  • Lorian
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    DFS, i guess the sale is over?

    If the energy company has a successful bid at a higher unit rate than they pass on to their participants then they make money - that would be somewhat at odds with them trying to market the sessions under the guise of a service message to customers.

    Even at the "enhanced" rates possible last year I'm sure a lot of people would have generated disharmony amongst family. For pennies I suspect uptake won't be what they are expecting.


  • Lorian said:
    DFS, i guess the sale is over?

    If the energy company has a successful bid at a higher unit rate than they pass on to their participants then they make money - that would be somewhat at odds with them trying to market the sessions under the guise of a service message to customers.

    Even at the "enhanced" rates possible last year I'm sure a lot of people would have generated disharmony amongst family. For pennies I suspect uptake won't be what they are expecting.


    I doubt it costs them nothing to run these events so some will be running costs.

    But yes as said earlier.in.the post I expect they will add some.enticements.along.with.the pennies.
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