UKCPS - PCN for parking in disabled bay (Thorpe Park Business Park, Leeds)

kingstongoldrich

Morning all

I emailed the land owner and my MP
The landowner has replied

I will refer this back to our Parking Control Contractor as from what I can tell you are asking for dispensation due to the fact it was raining heavily?

 

Kind regards

 

Chris Burns

Facilities Director – Commercial Property


What do you guys suggest that I reply?
Thanks

Coupon-mad

Obviously you ARE NOT asking for mitigating circumstances to be put to the scammer!  What's the point of complaining to a landowner if the landowner thinks they can ask an ex-wheel-clamper for 'dispensation'? So naive of them.

kingstongoldrich

Well its better than doing nothing
I'm going to have to put something along those lines otherwise I aren't following the rules

Coupon-mad

I just re-read your OP and I'm worried you've been reading some clueless ranty rubbish by the Consumer Action Group, which is sadly as appallingly useless at tackling private PCNs as the MSE site guidance, which actually has a stupid 'mitigating circumstances' section which you also mentioned in your OP.

The facts are:

1.  IGNORE UKCPS IS THE BEST ADVICE.

2.  YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

3.  NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.

4.  THE REASON TO COMPLAIN TO THE LANDOWNER IS TO SEND A PIC OF YOUR BLUE BADGE AND TO ASK FOR A 'REASONABLE ADJUSTMENT' UNDER THE EQUALITY ACT 2010 & CANCEL THE PCN.  NOT FOR THEM TO "TALK TO UKCPS BECAUSE IT WAS RAINING & YOU WERE ONLY THERE 2 MINUTES".  UKCPS WILL LAUGH AT YOU.

My advice is just stop taking it seriously.  Talk about the Equality Act to the landowner and remind them of the consumer duty they and UKCPS have to make 'reasonable adjustments'  (USE THAT PHRASE) and not to harass a disabled person, which is illegal.

kingstongoldrich

Just as an update my MP replied

Good Afternoon

Craig has asked me to thank you for your email in connection with your parking fine – I am sorry to hear about this. I have provided a link for an organisation who may be able to assist with appealing the fine – a number of people have in the past been sucesful – so fingers crossed.

https://www.popla.co.uk/

Take it that is pretty useless

KeithP

kingstongoldrich said:

Just as an update my MP replied

Good Afternoon

Craig has asked me to thank you for your email in connection with your parking fine – I am sorry to hear about this. I have provided a link for an organisation who may be able to assist with appealing the fine – a number of people have in the past been sucesful – so fingers crossed.

https://www.popla.co.uk/

Take it that is pretty useless

What a clueless MP.

UKCPS are not a BPA approved operator so a PoPLA appeal is not appropriate.

B789

kingstongoldrich said:

Just as an update my MP replied

Good Afternoon

Craig has asked me to thank you for your email in connection with your parking fine – I am sorry to hear about this. I have provided a link for an organisation who may be able to assist with appealing the fine – a number of people have in the past been sucesful – so fingers crossed.

https://www.popla.co.uk/

Take it that is pretty useless

You may want to educate "Craig" and his aides that UKCPS is not even in the BPA and so POPLA is irrelevant. UKCPS is an IPC member. Personally, I'd also point out that the standard of his intervention in this important matter is more a reflection of his indifference towards his constituents and shows an ignorance that is rather alarming considering the upcoming introduction of the DLUHC PPCoP Bill. 

kingstongoldrich

I'll definitely pass on these comments to him
He does seem pretty clueless from what I've seen so far
I'll mention that bill though and see if that changes his stance 

Coupon-mad

Tell him POPLA only applies to BPA firms which UKCPS are not. UKCPS are in the rival Trade Body (the IPC) which provides what clued-up MPs in 2018 called a 'kangaroo court' - the IAS - which refuses 95% of consumer appeals heard, and obviously is not worth trying.  Is Craig unaware of the Government reform and the fact that both those self-serving appeals services have failed and the DLUHC are replacing them as this rogue industry is being regulated?

Craig should not be buying into what the DLUHC has just declared as 'market failure'. Does he not know about the latest?

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/private-parking-code-of-practice-call-for-evidence

kingstongoldrich

Let's see if this does anything


Afternoon Howard, Craig

Firstly thanks for your response and the timeliness of it.

I am however somewhat concerned by the obvious inaccuracies and oversights in the email.....

As I'd hope you know, POPLA only applies to BPA firms which UKCPS are not. UKCPS are in the rival Trade Body (the IPC).

In 2018 this body was called a 'kangaroo court' by your colleagues- vast amounts of mps

Furthermore, the IAS - which refuses 95% of consumer appeals heard makes it obviously not worth trying. 

I'm interested to know if Craig is aware of the Government reform and the fact that both those self-serving appeals services have failed this reform and that the DLUHC are replacing them as this rogue industry is being regulated?

If so, I'm a little concerned and I'd hope that as my MP, you should not be buying into what the DLUHC has just declared as 'market failure'. The latest, below, was published on government websites recently, in the last week indeed, and was found using simple Google searches.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/private-parking-code-of-practice-call-for-evidence

Bearing in mind the above, can we readdress my initial concern and can you help to overturn what in affect are rogue companies trying to con people out of their hard earned monies....

I would appreciate your urgent attention in this matter.....

Regards

Rich