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  • It's important that you are seen as cooperating fully with your employer.  Therefore you should agree to the Occupational Health referral.  If you are asked to agree to your medical records being released - and this will be a written authorisation requiring your signature - you will have the opportunity to check what is sent (which you should do), and ask for anything sensitive and not relevant to be redacted.  I have done this several times as part of along-term absence from work, there is nothing unusual about it.  Your employer needs all the facts about your fitness and potential to return to work.

    In your situation I would also get a confirmed price for having the necessary treatment done privately and ask your employer if there is any way in which they can help; for example their private healthcare provider might be able to negotiate a better rate and/or they might be prepared to loan you some of the money, repayable from your salary.  You need to be seen to be trying to get back to work.
  • pope
    pope Posts: 334 Forumite
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    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
  • turnitround
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    edited 17 May 2023 at 5:40PM
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
  • pope
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    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    At the moment I can't get my head around my future with everything going on. The Old hospital have have a reputation for neglect also the DR'S are useless. Even if I did stay at the old hospital they probably would of done the surgery by now and wrecked it.
  • Undervalued
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    edited 17 May 2023 at 6:26PM
    pope said:
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    At the moment I can't get my head around my future with everything going on. The Old hospital have have a reputation for neglect also the DR'S are useless. Even if I did stay at the old hospital they probably would of done the surgery by now and wrecked it.
    Really?

    What evidence do you have for those assertions?
  • pope
    pope Posts: 334 Forumite
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    pope said:
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    pope said:
    Going back to my previous post- Can you confirm if the 3rd party have accepted liability or not? Edit, just cross posted and you have replied. Sorry.

    Looking back at your thread regarding hospital treatment you say you were in hospital but did not feel the hospital were taking good care of you so you transferred yourself to a different hospital who dont have capacity to treat you?

    Now you are saying that even after getting the fracture repaired you will be in recovery at least 6 months. It could be that the company you work for are concerned as they see no end to you being off. In fact in an earlier thread you say you dont think you will ever be able to return to work so are the company perhaps getting mixed messages from you.

    The new hospital dont have capacity for surgery at the moment.
    Exactly, so considering that and considering that you think will need another 6 months to recover (although that is probably not going to be the case) work are right to be wondering if you are going to get back within an acceptable timescale.
    Do you think you will be returning to work? Would it not have been better to have stayed where you were and had the treatment offered at the first hospital even though you were not happy with the treatment. It may have been better to get PALs involved rather than going into a long queue elsewhere.  As you are notan urgent case you going be waiting 2-3 years.
    At the moment I can't get my head around my future with everything going on. The Old hospital have have a reputation for neglect also the DR'S are useless. Even if I did stay at the old hospital they probably would of done the surgery by now and wrecked it.
    Really?

    What evidence do you have for those assertions?
    Unfortunately I don't have evidence.
  • Have any of the Doctors/Consultants given you an estimate of when you can return to work? If so, you need to share this with your employer.  Occupational Health may suggest a phased return or light duties etc.  I cannot stress how much you need to engage with your employer over this, otherwise you run the risk of losing your job.
  • pope
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    Have any of the Doctors/Consultants given you an estimate of when you can return to work? If so, you need to share this with your employer.  Occupational Health may suggest a phased return or light duties etc.  I cannot stress how much you need to engage with your employer over this, otherwise you run the risk of losing your job.
    My consultant has advised me that I have a fracture and I require correction surgery untill then it is a risk going back to work also long term complications.  And this is what I have told my employer and will be telling occupational health. 
  • Undervalued
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    pope said:
    Have any of the Doctors/Consultants given you an estimate of when you can return to work? If so, you need to share this with your employer.  Occupational Health may suggest a phased return or light duties etc.  I cannot stress how much you need to engage with your employer over this, otherwise you run the risk of losing your job.
    My consultant has advised me that I have a fracture and I require correction surgery untill then it is a risk going back to work also long term complications.  And this is what I have told my employer and will be telling occupational health. 
    That may be so and I am sure it is good medical advice. That doesn't however mean that your employer is obliged to keep you in post indefinitely.
  • pope
    pope Posts: 334 Forumite
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    Just to give a update I had my Occupational health refferal assessment today over the phone it was 30 minutes long the person was really nice and asked about my health and how I am. Employer has asked 4 questions 

    When will I return to work
    When will surgery be 
    Will I return to work after surgery 
    Can we do anything to help back in to work

    All of these questions the OH said are pointless and stupid questions. OH actually said that Employer has no choice but to wait untill I have had my surgery as there is nothing else that can be done. 

    No mention of medical record request.
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