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  • Grizebeck
    Grizebeck Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    Find out who owns that phone range and get them to pull the number
  • Grizebeck said:
    Find out who owns that phone range and get them to pull the number
    Probably me being thick, but I don't understand what you mean?
  • Grizebeck
    Grizebeck Posts: 3,967 Forumite
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    edited 24 April 2023 at 8:23PM
    Grizebeck said:
    Find out who owns that phone range and get them to pull the number
    Probably me being thick, but I don't understand what you mean?
    You can find out the company that owns a range of phone number. Normally a reseller to other firms
    Most likely a virtual / voip number
  • Grizebeck said:
    Grizebeck said:
    Find out who owns that phone range and get them to pull the number
    Probably me being thick, but I don't understand what you mean?
    You can find out the company that owns a range of phone number. Normally a reseller to other firms
    Most likely a virtual / voip number
    Thank you, that makes more sense to me now :)
  • B789
    B789 Posts: 3,441 Forumite
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    The problem is that numbers can be ported to different operators. I've had the same number for nearly 15 years and have had it on 3 different operators' networks.
  • B789
    B789 Posts: 3,441 Forumite
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    What does anyone think the percentage of gullible victims who actually fall for this scam is? 0.5%, 1%?

    Think about how much these scammers make if it is anything like 0.5%. Send 100,000 scam letters and have 0.5% of the victims actually pay c£610, that's well over £300,000 for the scammers.

    Interesting statistic. According to the latest available data from the UK's Office for National Statistics (ONS) on fraud and cybercrime, there were an estimated 3.8 million fraud incidents and 2.5 million cybercrime incidents in the year ending March 2020. It's not clear how many of these incidents were specifically related to postal money scams, but it highlights the scale of the issue. It's important to note that many victims of scams do not report their losses, so the actual numbers of victims and losses may be much higher than what is reported.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,476 Forumite
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    Somewhere there is a data leak enabling the scammers to get RK Data one way or another
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Half_way said:
    Somewhere there is a data leak enabling the scammers to get RK Data one way or another
    I read somewhere, may have been on here so apologies if so, that they are advertising courier jobs on Indeed website and part of the application asks for vehicle registration. With all other information offered up of course, they're getting alot of details that way.
  • DE_612183
    DE_612183 Posts: 3,818 Forumite
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    I'm think as well there was mention of an insurance site as well either harvesting data or selling it.
  • Does that put Indeed and possibly others is serious breach of data protection laws? Anyone scammed this way should start pursuing them, as they'll get nowhere with WIRO themselves.
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