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Why are people so disparaging about IHDs?

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  • RG2015
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    dealyboy said:
    RG2015 said:
    Mstty said:
    Swipe said:
    Or maybe the energy companies just need to make more of an effort to keep people's smart meters up to date with the correct tariff info
    The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!
    Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter.
    ... after 107 posts  :s ... where's that scream emoji ?
    Can you explain in simple language what you mean please?

    I am afraid your last response was lost on me.
  • Gerry1
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    RG2015 said:
    Mstty said:
    Swipe said:
    Or maybe the energy companies just need to make more of an effort to keep people's smart meters up to date with the correct tariff info
    The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!
    Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter.
    The info comes from the Communications Hub.


  • RG2015
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    edited 6 May 2023 at 5:03PM
    This may explain my confusion.

    Within a home there will be a Smart Metering System (SMS), typically comprising of Electricity and Gas meters, an In Home Display (IHD) and at least one WAN modem. Of course, not every home has a gas supply, and some solution approaches could result in the WAN function being physically delivered within the same box as the electricity metrology.

    As I have no gas supply, my smart functionality is all in the same box.

    Edit. On closer examination it does look like I have two boxes that appear to merge almost seamlessly.

    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2011/01/smdg---meeting-4---era-paper-on-interfaces_0.pdf
  • Swipe
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    edited 6 May 2023 at 4:52PM
    RG2015 said:
    This may explain my confusion.

    Within a home there will be a Smart Metering System (SMS), typically comprising of Electricity and Gas meters, an In Home Display (IHD) and at least one WAN modem. Of course, not every home has a gas supply, and some solution approaches could result in the WAN function being physically delivered within the same box as the electricity metrology.

    As I have no gas supply, my smart functionality is all in the same box.

    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/default/files/docs/2011/01/smdg---meeting-4---era-paper-on-interfaces_0.pdf
    Yep, my comms hub sits on top of the electric smart meter. Not sure if it's detachable or not but I did notice there was a cover to the comms part when the installer fitted it.
  • dealyboy
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    RG2015 said:
    dealyboy said:
    RG2015 said:
    Mstty said:
    Swipe said:
    Or maybe the energy companies just need to make more of an effort to keep people's smart meters up to date with the correct tariff info
    The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!
    Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter.
    ... after 107 posts  :s ... where's that scream emoji ?
    Can you explain in simple language what you mean please?

    I am afraid your last response was lost on me.
    @RG2015 ... irony ... after a large number of posts/comments we have two established MSE'ers ... one says 'The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!' in response the other (the OP) says 'Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter'. I'm afraid you can't explain being ironic, you either get it or you don't.

    Without irony: 'The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!' Yes. 'Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter' Yes.
  • RG2015
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    dealyboy said:
    RG2015 said:
    dealyboy said:
    RG2015 said:
    Mstty said:
    Swipe said:
    Or maybe the energy companies just need to make more of an effort to keep people's smart meters up to date with the correct tariff info
    The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!
    Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter.
    ... after 107 posts  :s ... where's that scream emoji ?
    Can you explain in simple language what you mean please?

    I am afraid your last response was lost on me.
    @RG2015 ... irony ... after a large number of posts/comments we have two established MSE'ers ... one says 'The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!' in response the other (the OP) says 'Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter'. I'm afraid you can't explain being ironic, you either get it or you don't.

    Without irony: 'The IHD is not a smart meter!!!!!' Yes. 'Surely the IHD pulls the tariffs off the smart meter' Yes.
    Okay, thanks.

    Sometimes you can't tell the pedants from the ironocists. And don't get me started on the trolls and wind-up merchants!  :)

    And just as it was becoming clear, it now seems that the communications hub and the electric meter are actually two different things (boxes).


  • dealyboy
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    RG2015 said:
    And just as it was becoming clear, it now seems that the communications hub and the electric meter are actually two different things (boxes).

    ... indeed and can be integrated in the same meter box dependent on make, the IHD accesses the data in the smart meter via wifi.
  • RG2015
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    dealyboy said:
    RG2015 said:
    And just as it was becoming clear, it now seems that the communications hub and the electric meter are actually two different things (boxes).

    ... indeed and can be integrated in the same meter box dependent on make, the IHD accesses the data in the smart meter via wifi.
    Ah, I think I am getting the hang of this.

    You say the IHD accesses the data in the smart meter via wifi

    And I say

    No it doesn't, HAN is not wifi.  
    :)  :D  
  • matt_drummer
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    edited 6 May 2023 at 5:53PM
    RG2015 said:


    No it doesn't, HAN is not wifi.   :)  :D  
    What is it then?

    What do you think HAN stands for?

    There is no physical connection, how do you think the data gets to the IHD?
  • RG2015
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    RG2015 said:


    No it doesn't, HAN is not wifi.   :)  :D  
    What is it then?

    There is no physical connection, how do you think the data gets to the IHD?
    It was a joke, probably not funny though  :s
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