New telegraph pole installed, would like it moved - please help!

Alderbank

diego_94 said:

What others have said, its not your land so you cannot object. You and all your neighbors need to park responsibly, not on pavements. If you don't have enough parking then move to somewhere that can accomodate.

I'm not sure I follow your logic?
Nobody objects to what they are doing on their own land. Objections are always about what someone else is doing on their land, and many objections are upheld.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

TheJP

molenpad said:

Had a similar issue when I lived on a narrow street of terraces. Not enough on street parking for those with 3 cars in their two bedroom two-up two-down.

The council put speed bumps on that road as it was used as a rat run, and the sign that advised them of the new controls was plonked on the footpath where a neighbour would usually squeeze two cars. 

Plenty of moaning and groaning ensued, but nothing was ever done, and I don't believe it should have been.

There is no such thing as street parking. You mean you park on the pavement which is for pedestrians. 

JuzaMum

It really irritates me when people park on pavements. It shows a complete lack of consideration for parents with buggys and the disabled. I live in an area with little off road parking. People used to park on the corners which made things very difficult for the bin lorries. Now we have double yellow lines on the corners and if you park on them on bin day you soon get a ticket.

TheJP

JuzaMum said:

It really irritates me when people park on pavements. It shows a complete lack of consideration for parents with buggys and the disabled. I live in an area with little off road parking. People used to park on the corners which made things very difficult for the bin lorries. Now we have double yellow lines on the corners and if you park on them on bin day you soon get a ticket.

Yup. Someone a few doors down has a friend visit every weekend around lunch time, they park on the pavement. Now i get that its a cul-de-sac and the road is a bit narrower but they block the whole pavement, i take my boys out for a walk (youngest is 1) i have to go onto the road to get around the car. Sometimes she's getting out of the car or she's just by it and she just smiles and says hello ignoring me going round her car. I once said could you not leave enough space for a buggy to get passed, her response was 'i don't want to inconvenience other cars that drive down here. Bonkers logic.

Section62

Alderbank said:

diego_94 said:

What others have said, its not your land so you cannot object. You and all your neighbors need to park responsibly, not on pavements. If you don't have enough parking then move to somewhere that can accomodate.

I'm not sure I follow your logic?
Nobody objects to what they are doing on their own land. Objections are always about what someone else is doing on their land, and many objections are upheld.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

In this case the OP could object whether the pole and cables are on their land or not.  Para 3 of the street notice explains the statutory right to object which (if para 4 doesn't apply) they could do as the occupier of land neighbouring the land on which the apparatus is kept.

TheJP

Section62 said:

Alderbank said:

diego_94 said:

What others have said, its not your land so you cannot object. You and all your neighbors need to park responsibly, not on pavements. If you don't have enough parking then move to somewhere that can accomodate.

I'm not sure I follow your logic?
Nobody objects to what they are doing on their own land. Objections are always about what someone else is doing on their land, and many objections are upheld.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

In this case the OP could object whether the pole and cables are on their land or not.  Para 3 of the street notice explains the statutory right to object which (if para 4 doesn't apply) they could do as the occupier of land neighbouring the land on which the apparatus is kept.

As the OP is on the other side of the road to the telegraph pole i think that rules out objecting by way of neighbouring the piece of land the pole is on. They neighbour the road not the pole.

FreeBear

JuzaMum said:

It really irritates me when people park on pavements. It shows a complete lack of consideration for parents with buggys and the disabled. I live in an area with little off road parking. People used to park on the corners which made things very difficult for the bin lorries. Now we have double yellow lines on the corners and if you park on them on bin day you soon get a ticket.

Had a road like this on an industrial estate where I worked. One of the units housed a disabled charity workshop, and with the pavement blocked by inconsiderate drivers, it forced everyone out in to the road.

Me, being the thoughtful kinda bear, would ring the police & council on a daily basis to complain. Traffic wardens would then come out and slap tickets on all the cars. A nice little earner for the council while it lasted.

The workshop has since closed, double yellows painted down the road, and no more abandoned cars.

tooldle

TheJP said:

JuzaMum said:

It really irritates me when people park on pavements. It shows a complete lack of consideration for parents with buggys and the disabled. I live in an area with little off road parking. People used to park on the corners which made things very difficult for the bin lorries. Now we have double yellow lines on the corners and if you park on them on bin day you soon get a ticket.

Yup. Someone a few doors down has a friend visit every weekend around lunch time, they park on the pavement. Now i get that its a cul-de-sac and the road is a bit narrower but they block the whole pavement, i take my boys out for a walk (youngest is 1) i have to go onto the road to get around the car. Sometimes she's getting out of the car or she's just by it and she just smiles and says hello ignoring me going round her car. I once said could you not leave enough space for a buggy to get passed, her response was 'i don't want to inconvenience other cars that drive down here. Bonkers logic.

The police will have a word, if you report it. I’ve had some success via the police, in stopping this type of scenario. 

Section62

TheJP said:

Section62 said:

Alderbank said:

diego_94 said:

What others have said, its not your land so you cannot object. You and all your neighbors need to park responsibly, not on pavements. If you don't have enough parking then move to somewhere that can accomodate.

I'm not sure I follow your logic?
Nobody objects to what they are doing on their own land. Objections are always about what someone else is doing on their land, and many objections are upheld.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

In this case the OP could object whether the pole and cables are on their land or not.  Para 3 of the street notice explains the statutory right to object which (if para 4 doesn't apply) they could do as the occupier of land neighbouring the land on which the apparatus is kept.

As the OP is on the other side of the road to the telegraph pole i think that rules out objecting by way of neighbouring the piece of land the pole is on. They neighbour the road not the pole.

The apparatus is on the highway/road.

The OP neighbours the highway/road.

The OP has a right to object, subject to the provisions of para 4.

Nothing in the legislation or Communications Code says you have to neighbour "the pole" - that wouldn't make sense.

The condition is whether or not the land being occupied by the would-be complainant neighbours land on which apparatus has been placed.

molenpad

TheJP said:

molenpad said:

Had a similar issue when I lived on a narrow street of terraces. Not enough on street parking for those with 3 cars in their two bedroom two-up two-down.

The council put speed bumps on that road as it was used as a rat run, and the sign that advised them of the new controls was plonked on the footpath where a neighbour would usually squeeze two cars. 

Plenty of moaning and groaning ensued, but nothing was ever done, and I don't believe it should have been.

There is no such thing as street parking. You mean you park on the pavement which is for pedestrians. 

No, I mean legally parking on the street adjacent to the kerb. The road had a permit based residents only parking for one car per household due to its proximity to the local town hall and civic centre. I'm talking about where the sign advising speed controls was put in place, ie. on the pavement towards the entrance to the street (adjacent to gable ends) that people used as an overflow when they had too many cars to fit into the permit restricted parking spaces. The installation of the post, and later a telecommunications box caused people problems in doing this, which is tough in my opinion.