Forgot to display Blue Badge. UKPC fine Norwich

Hatebeingdone

Half_way said:

Hatebeingdone said:

B789 said:

Edgerley Simpson Howe appear to be the property management/lease agents for the site. 020 7758 0400

This gleaned from a quick google search which threw this up: https://images1.loopnet.com/d2/d4Zlqw0YyufSGA36DpBiQRRzlTzuYMC8Y2R2ykrLrkA/document.pdf 

They claim they have had several people ask about parking fines and have nothing to do with it.  I said I disagreed since it is their land. Just a 'computer said no' situation again. 

What did you say?

 Did you remind them that they are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agents - including any un regulated parking company they allow to operate on their land and this would include any breach of the Equality act ( disability discrimination) as their agents ( the un regulated parking company) have continued to pursue you despite providing evidence of a long term disability for which a reasonable adjustment must be made    , or did you go in at it along the lines of please cancel the "fine" - of which it is not a fine

Half_way said:

Hatebeingdone said:

B789 said:

Edgerley Simpson Howe appear to be the property management/lease agents for the site. 020 7758 0400

This gleaned from a quick google search which threw this up: https://images1.loopnet.com/d2/d4Zlqw0YyufSGA36DpBiQRRzlTzuYMC8Y2R2ykrLrkA/document.pdf 

They claim they have had several people ask about parking fines and have nothing to do with it.  I said I disagreed since it is their land. Just a 'computer said no' situation again. 

What did you say?

 Did you remind them that they are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agents - including any un regulated parking company they allow to operate on their land and this would include any breach of the Equality act ( disability discrimination) as their agents ( the un regulated parking company) have continued to pursue you despite providing evidence of a long term disability for which a reasonable adjustment must be made    , or did you go in at it along the lines of please cancel the "fine" - of which it is not a fine

I know it is not a fine.  I did not break the contract I had with the PPC because I hold a Blue Badge and have given them evidence.  Also, when I looked at Google maps there are no signs near the disabled parking to say you must display the Blue Badge. I have read on the forum that POPLA do not take notice of the Equality Act. Is this still correct please?

Half_way

Hatebeingdone said:

B789 said:

If they are the managers/lease agents for that site then they will be responsible for contracting the PPC. If they are not the landowners, then you should maybe ask them for the landowner's details as either they or the landowner has contracted the PPC and they will be liable for the actions of their agents.

Perhaps a question to them about which one is the monkey and which one is the organ grinder.

I know.  They were more or less saying they just rent it to the parking company. Everyone you contact just says it's not my fault.  They are used to people complaining.

But what did you say to them?

Hatebeingdone

I asked if they managed the land and they said they did. They said the ppc was nothing to do with them. When I argued they said they leased the land to the ppc or something like that.

Boat_to_Bolivia

Hatebeingdone said:

I asked if they managed the land and they said they did. They said the ppc was nothing to do with them. When I argued they said they leased the land to the ppc or something like that.

What a load of rubbish.

Coupon-mad

They don't lease the land.  UKPC are just their agents and the managing agents can tell the parking agent to cancel any PCN.  Especially if you push the Equality Act point.

You are right that POPLA don't consider the EA but the first action is not POPLA, but to escalate that complaint and absolutely insist on cancellation.

Fruitcake

PoPLA will ignore appeals quoting the Equality Act. This should not stop you including it. It is another point to make during the forthcoming public consultation about parking fees, and yet another point to complain about to your MP.

You might also want to contact the Right Hon Kemi Badenoch who is the Minister for Women and Equalities for the Equality Hub.
She was previously the Minister of State at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities between 16 September 2021 and 6 July 2022. The DHLUC are the government outfit responsible for the forthcoming mandatory parking Code of Conduct. 

You might want to inform her that the proposed CoC as it stands will immediately breach the EA 2010 as soon as it introduced because it only exempts blue badge holders, not motorists with disabilities who do not have a blue badge. This is discrimination.

Hatebeingdone

I got their letter on 4 April and it says 28 days to appeal to POPLA so I need to get the appeal sorted.  I don't see how POPLA can ignore the EA.  I don't have much else to appeal on apart from lack of signs for the contract. https://goo.gl/maps/NoxFF7eHrKw9nb2L6

Coupon-mad

You have 33 days, not 28 (ignore what it says).

Hatebeingdone

Fruitcake said:

PoPLA will ignore appeals quoting the Equality Act. This should not stop you including it. It is another point to make during the forthcoming public consultation about parking fees, and yet another point to complain about to your MP.

You might also want to contact the Right Hon Kemi Badenoch who is the Minister for Women and Equalities for the Equality Hub.
She was previously the Minister of State at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities between 16 September 2021 and 6 July 2022. The DHLUC are the government outfit responsible for the forthcoming mandatory parking Code of Conduct. 

You might want to inform her that the proposed CoC as it stands will immediately breach the EA 2010 as soon as it introduced because it only exempts blue badge holders, not motorists with disabilities who do not have a blue badge. This is discrimination.

Considering the lack of levelling up, I think I would be wasting my time. People are starving.
A Blue Badge does not exempt you from legalised discrimination. I don't think disabled people should be charged to park.  This is discrimination because disabled people cannot ride a bike or get a bus and therefore they have no other options but to park to get in the shops or whatever.  Therefore charging them to get near shops is discrimination.
I cannot believe POPLA can get away with ignoring the EA.

Hatebeingdone

I am the keeper of the vehicle and have contacted UKPC and they have turned down my appeal via email, does this mean that they do not have to send a formal notice to keeper within 56 days (?) Please?