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What type of shower can I have?

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  • sho_me_da_money
    sho_me_da_money Posts: 1,679 Forumite
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    edited 9 March 2023 at 4:58PM
    Not to take the pee out of him, is there any way I can check this?

    Just had a friend whose a gas engineer check and the HOT water pipe IS on the left. Thank God.

    I also asked my mate if I could put any HansGrohe shower. He said the video (that I posted in the original first message) probably is showing how to install it in the EU. However, almost all of them showers have adapters to fit on a UK setup where the bare metal copper pipes are exposed. Is that true?

    I guess that means I can have ANY shower I want providing its sold by a reputable company in the UK and my flow rate matches. I suppose I could call Hansgrohe too?

    EDIT

    Hansgrohe customer service confirmed, I simply need to buy a Fast Fit Kit and I can install ANY shower they have onto the bare metal copper pipes providing my flow rate matches.

    PERFECT!!

    THANK YOU GENT!

  • ThisIsWeird
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    Phew indeed!

    When not using Hansgrohe's 'cranked' connectors, I would imagine that the 150mm has to be spot on. Other than that, all good. Oh, apart from - possibly - that solder coupler. Is it in the way? Will the pipe be too short without it?
  • ThisIsWeird
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    Oh, and you check the available flow using the kitchen cold - sorry if I didn't make that clear. 
  • sho_me_da_money
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    edited 13 March 2023 at 3:30PM
    Thank you all.

    Had a more basic question.

    So as you can see, I have a 1400mm tray installed and originally I was going to have a fake wall built into the space to the right side of the tray for niches. Im now having second thoughts about the fake wall.

    I can't replace the shower tray for a longer one - that ship has sailed.

    What's the best way to deal with the gap between the end of the tray and the right side wall? Maybe tile between the wall and the tray so it acts like a sill for shampoos etc? Just want it to look decent and now a cowboy job.

  • plumb1_2
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    Build the wall without the niche, don’t have a shelf type tile at the bottom, your asking for issues.
  • davemorton
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    Sorry to just on the thread op, but a couple of people have said that a thermostatic showers is a must, can I ask why please.  I understand if there are kids in the house, but the last 2 showers I have had fitted (different house), I have actively avoided them, and went with (none thermostatic) mixers as I find them more reliable over the longer term. 
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  • ThisIsWeird
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    edited 14 March 2023 at 8:14AM
    Sorry to just on the thread op, but a couple of people have said that a thermostatic showers is a must, can I ask why please.  I understand if there are kids in the house, but the last 2 showers I have had fitted (different house), I have actively avoided them, and went with (none thermostatic) mixers as I find them more reliable over the longer term. 
    One significant drawback with a combi-powered shower is that it reacts poorly to other taps and loos being used. If you have a manual mixer with a combi, you will be chilled and you will risk being scalded when anything else in the house is used. With a therm, the worst that should happen is that the flow rate drops off temporarily.

    Even with a stored system, you will likely need to tweak the temp control between and even during showers as the stored hot water temp will likely vary. And if the shower hasn't been plumbed in with dedicated supplies, then the chill/ouch can also occur.

    Yes, a therm is less reliable - that device is the most likely part to fail, especially so in hard water areas. But on a combi system at least, I'd say def therm. 
  • Belenus
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    Sorry to just on the thread op, but a couple of people have said that a thermostatic showers is a must, can I ask why please.  I understand if there are kids in the house, but the last 2 showers I have had fitted (different house), I have actively avoided them, and went with (none thermostatic) mixers as I find them more reliable over the longer term. 

    Yes, a therm is less reliable - that device is the most likely part to fail, especially so in hard water areas. But on a combi system at least, I'd say def therm. 
    We have found them to be very reliable despite being used frequently as we both shower rather than bathe.

    Our 2005 built house, purchased by us in 2011, still has the original now 18 year old thermostatic shower. We are in a very hard water area. We fitted a water softener in 2016 so it had 11 years use with hard water.

    In our previous house, a thermostatic shower lasted over 20 years and may still be working.


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  • plumb1_2
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    Belenus said:
    Sorry to just on the thread op, but a couple of people have said that a thermostatic showers is a must, can I ask why please.  I understand if there are kids in the house, but the last 2 showers I have had fitted (different house), I have actively avoided them, and went with (none thermostatic) mixers as I find them more reliable over the longer term. 

    Yes, a therm is less reliable - that device is the most likely part to fail, especially so in hard water areas. But on a combi system at least, I'd say def therm. 
    We have found them to be very reliable despite being used frequently as we both shower rather than bathe.

    Our 2005 built house, purchased by us in 2011, still has the original now 18 year old thermostatic shower. We are in a very hard water area. We fitted a water softener in 2016 so it had 11 years use with hard water.

    In our previous house, a thermostatic shower lasted over 20 years and may still be working.


    Mira ? By any chance 
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