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Communal Heating & Hot Water Charges

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  • chris_n said:

    What is the gas for if you have communal heating?  
    My cooker.
  • matelodave
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    If you only use gas for cooking you'd be better of getting an electric cooker and saving the gas standing charge.
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  • If you only use gas for cooking you'd be better of getting an electric cooker and saving the gas standing charge.
    I'm with Utilita -- there is no standing charge. As far as I'm aware, they're the only company offering this at the moment -- but yeah, if they do away with it I'll need to think about switching to electric.
  • molerat
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    edited 11 January 2024 at 5:40PM
    If you only use gas for cooking you'd be better of getting an electric cooker and saving the gas standing charge.
    I'm with Utilita -- there is no standing charge. As far as I'm aware, they're the only company offering this at the moment -- but yeah, if they do away with it I'll need to think about switching to electric.
    There likely is a standing charge hidden in the first units used price

  • pochase
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    edited 12 March 2023 at 3:48PM
    Correct, the Utilitia tariff without a standing charge is more expensive for the first 2KWh, 50% of the standing charge per KWh.

    So if you use 2KWh of gas you pay exactly the same as on a tariff with standing charge.
  • Alnat1
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    But if the OP didn't use the gas cooker every day, they would only pay on the days they do use it. On a standard tariff the SC would be paid for every day whether or not you used any gas.
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  • pochase
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    Very true, it ight be cheaper than a tariff with daily standing charges. But it is not a tariff without standing charges as the OP believes.
  • macman
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    Is this an annual increase aligning (almost) with the new tax year? If so, your rates have not risen since April '22, unlike anyone on a direct residential supply of gas and electricity, and yet you have still enjoyed £400 support via the EBSS and £150 CT rebate.
    What does your TA say about the cost of this communal service? 
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    macman said:
    Is this an annual increase aligning (almost) with the new tax year? If so, your rates have not risen since April '22, unlike anyone on a direct residential supply of gas and electricity, and yet you have still enjoyed £400 support via the EBSS and £150 CT rebate.
    What does your TA say about the cost of this communal service? 
    By TA do you mean tenants association? There isn't one, but there is a leaseholders association responsible for the freehold, and they set the rates charged to leaseholders -- council tenants don't have any contact with them.

    The EBBS helped me with my general use of power -- just like the rest of the population, although I'd use the word 'appreciated' rather than 'enjoyed', Nevertheless it didn't make any difference to the communal charge -- which is set to rise on the 3rd April.
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    edited 13 March 2023 at 3:24AM
    pochase said:
    Very true, it ight be cheaper than a tariff with daily standing charges. But it is not a tariff without standing charges as the OP believes.
    OK, but you get my drift. I don't use the gas cooker every day and I don't cook complicated meals when I do.

    I can't remember the exact costs, but the first couple of units are charged at a higher rate -- however, having done the maths, it still works out cheaper than it would with a monthly standing charge tariff.

    If they introduced a monthly charge, I would consider going all electric -- but the initial outlay of a matching quality electric cooker is beyond my means at the moment, so I hope it stays the same.
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