Octopus: Action: Your meter is approaching its use-by date

ariarnia

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

matt_drummer

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

I have not assumed anything.

i said make the most of what you have and your circumstances, take advantage of what's available to you.

I was very careful with what I said.

So, what you have, what your circumstances are and what's available to you.

That may well be very different to what I can and choose to do.

2010

@ Deleted_User
I had the same email from Octopus last year and posted about it on this board.
My own opinion was and is, it is just another tactic by the providers to get their quota of SM fitted otherwise they face a government fine.
I just ignored the email and I have heard nothing since about my so-called "out of date" meter.

ariarnia

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

I have not assumed anything.

i said make the most of what you have and your circumstances, take advantage of what's available to you.

I was very careful with what I said.

So, what you have, what your circumstances are and what's available to you.

That may well be very different to what I can and choose to do.

okay.

but if you read your posts on the thread again you suggested several times the op had no good reason for not wanting a smart meter because you assumed there motivation was or should be saving money. 

just saying that differnt people are allowed to be movitated by diffent things even when it might seem 'mad' to us. 

EssexHebridean

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

I have not assumed anything.

i said make the most of what you have and your circumstances, take advantage of what's available to you.

I was very careful with what I said.

So, what you have, what your circumstances are and what's available to you.

That may well be very different to what I can and choose to do.

okay.

but if you read your posts on the thread again you suggested several times the op had no good reason for not wanting a smart meter because you assumed there motivation was or should be saving money. 

just saying that differnt people are allowed to be movitated by diffent things even when it might seem 'mad' to us. 

We appear to have come full-circle back to my “peace of mind” post! 

matt_drummer

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

I have not assumed anything.

i said make the most of what you have and your circumstances, take advantage of what's available to you.

I was very careful with what I said.

So, what you have, what your circumstances are and what's available to you.

That may well be very different to what I can and choose to do.

okay.

but if you read your posts on the thread again you suggested several times the op had no good reason for not wanting a smart meter because you assumed there motivation was or should be saving money. 

just saying that differnt people are allowed to be movitated by diffent things even when it might seem 'mad' to us. 

I have read all my posts.

I have not knowingly said it's about saving money.

I have consistently said that smart meters are just meters for recording your energy use, nothing more than that. They communicate with the energy supplier and if that fails they still work as energy meters.

I advocate reading your meters, whatever they are periodically, whatever type they are.

I have said that there is no rational reason for not having smart meters as they do the same job as non smart energy meters.

If you want to do anything else with them it's up to the customer but in everyday use, they do exactly the same as what they replaced.

I don't have them to save money, I just have them as I can't see any reason not to, they just record my gas and energy usage, the same as the non smart meters they replace.

Honestly, there is no difference in either of the houses I have had smart meters fitted, they just record my energy use.

I quite like the in house display but I could live without it.


If you want to go on a tariff that requires a smart meter to save money, that's great, I don't.

I am repeating myself but there is no logical reason not to have them, they do the same as any other meter.



I have never said the OP must have them.

I have said that if the supplier wants to fit them, then they should be allowed to as the meters belong to the supplier.

I also believe that a new meter is likely to be more accurate and more reliable than a 30+ year old meter.



But if the OP doesn't want them, don't have them, I don't understand why, but I also don't care, its up to them.


What I do care about is people that perpetuate untruths to discourage people from doing something that will do them no harm and will in all likelyhood benefit them.


it seems that some people think that there is some deep and dark conspiracy going on involving smart meters and that they need to dissuade as many people as possible from getting them.


All the Op needs to do is tell Octopus, thank you but no thanks, not at the moment. Why they needed to ask here I will never know! If you don't want them, just say no!

matt_drummer

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

ariarnia said:

matt_drummer said:

ariarnia said:

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

Gerry1 said:

MWT said:

Gerry1 said:

TheElectricCow said:

greenhill said:

No, you don't save money with smart meters so please don't bother saying that.

At the more extreme end of the scale you even have things like the Demand Flexibility Service currently being tested/ran which can allow for some significant gains if you go about it right.

AKA Surge Pricing.

Don't worry, electricity will only be prohibitively expensive at the times when you want to use it...

The exact opposite in this case, people are being paid to use less energy in a specified time period to reduce the demand...

And how long do you think that this Shangri-La La Land will last?

Forever, it's the future.

It's a great way to manage our energy consumption.

It's a great way for them to manage your energy consumption.  FTFY !

Starts with paying people to use less.  Yup, some people will fall for it.  (Just as they believed in the pensions triple lock, that the Dartford Bridge would only be tolled until it had paid for itself, that Theresa wouldn't call an early general election, that Clegg wouldn't allow tuition fees to be increased, and that the Pound in your Pocket wouldn't be devalued.  Yup, you can always trust a politician.  And BTW there were never any parties.)

Then it's Surge Pricing, which won't remain optional for very long.  If you don't comply, then it's Load Limiting.

If you still don't comply, then it's Load Shedding.

Yes, it may well be the future, but it's the sheer dishonesty of the unpublicised Demand Side Response agenda to which I object.

you know theres someone on the housing board you might really get on with. he's been warning people not to buy because the housing market is going too crash any day now. he's been saying the same thing since 2008 so he's got to be right one of these days hasn't he...?

It's easy to be a doom monger, one day they might be right.

I find the best way is to make the most of what you have and the circumstances.

If that means getting smart meters then its not the end of the world.

Just take advantage of what's available, you really can't go wrong.

Not everybody is out to screw you over, just don't listen to these people, they haven't a clue.

its also easy to assume whats best/important for you is best/important for everyone else  

I have not assumed anything.

i said make the most of what you have and your circumstances, take advantage of what's available to you.

I was very careful with what I said.

So, what you have, what your circumstances are and what's available to you.

That may well be very different to what I can and choose to do.

okay.

but if you read your posts on the thread again you suggested several times the op had no good reason for not wanting a smart meter because you assumed there motivation was or should be saving money. 

just saying that differnt people are allowed to be movitated by diffent things even when it might seem 'mad' to us. 

And most of my posts were not directed at the OP, the thread `deteriorated into a general discussion about smart meters.

My posts were about the reasons for not getting them in general, not particularly in this case.

Maybe I have been a bit silly in expanding the thread and should have stuck to the OP's case.

I thought the OP had his answer and had decided to reject the `offer' from Octopus and that we were now talking abou smart meters in general.

Maybe you all think I am talking about him/her?

I really had forgotten what we started talking about from the original post.


Sorry

ariarnia

no worries. we all read plane text differently and its not for me to police your texts.

you no what you mean and either way i think (hope) the op got what they wanted from the thread   

matt_drummer

What do you mean?

I have never been a member of this forum before, you think I have?

Spoonie_Turtle

matt_drummer said:

What do you mean?

I have never been a member of this forum before, you think I have?

Sorry, evidently mistook you for someone (in a good way, take it as a compliment) - but realised it wasn't necessary to say anything anyway and deleted my post. 
Sorry you saw it before I thought better of it