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  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,345 Forumite
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    RAS said:
    jillconey said:
    She then stated house was filthy (4 years after moving in and dangerous. Her daughter health visitor had advised her to move out as dirty and unsafe (she is 21). 
    One small point. If daughter is 21, she is not a health visitor. 

    This is a postgraduate qualification, so she'd need a 3 year nursing degree, registration in the September and to apply for a training job which includes a PG course.

    Might aspire to be one but,..... another example of the tenant "gilding the lily?"
    maybe it was "daughter's health visitor"
  • TimSynths
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    Following this thread with great interest, Jill I hope you get it resolved. (and very soon now)

    Tim.
  • Emily_Joy
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    edited 1 March 2023 at 6:00PM
    RAS said:
    jillconey said:
    She then stated house was filthy (4 years after moving in and dangerous. Her daughter health visitor had advised her to move out as dirty and unsafe (she is 21). 
    One small point. If daughter is 21, she is not a health visitor. 

    You have misunderstood it. The daughter is 21 and is in poor health. She (the daughter) has visits by a health visitor. The main tenant is probably over 40 or something like that.

  • Flugelhorn
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    We often see the suggestion from posters that attorneys rent out their parents house to help cover care costs, but this thread should be a warning not to do it. Managing the affairs of someone with dementia is stressful at the best of times taking on the responsibility of being a landlord at the same time just adds to the stress even if you don’t have the tenants from hell as the OP has.  
    good point - also clear that renting out a property is a bit like a fixed term savings account when really you should have an instant access one
  • deannagone
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    edited 1 March 2023 at 1:49PM
    Emily_Joy said:
    RAS said:
    jillconey said:
    She then stated house was filthy (4 years after moving in and dangerous. Her daughter health visitor had advised her to move out as dirty and unsafe (she is 21). 
    One small point. If daughter is 21, she is not a health visitor. 

    You have misunderstood it. The daughter is 21 and is in poor health. She (the daughter) have visits by a health visitor. The main tenant is probably over 40 or something like that.

    ???? Health visitors only visit children up until they start school.  If the tenant's daughter is 21, she's a bit beyond this.

    The tenant's daughter being a HV is rather tight timing, so I agree with another post that its unlikely to be true.  

    But I think we need to concentrate on how the OP can get her property back.  There's quite a bit of misinformation on here.  
  • diystarter7
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    jillconey said:
    Normally I love see through this and ignore but I’m not in my right mind at the moment to be honest. The sense of entitlement is appalling. Sick of “the poor tenant and the greedy landlord”:mob. The landlord in this case is 93, with the mental age of a newborn baby. People ask if he knows me….I answer he doesn’t know I’m in the room. 
    Hello OP

    Just want to say good luck again, many are with you inc me.  When I have posted for help/guidance, reading supportive comments do help.

    Take care.
  • SadieO
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    I'm so sorry for what you're going through OP. 
  • theartfullodger
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    mark5 said:
    jillconey said:

    Under English law tenants have right to challenge or modify attempts to evict.  Up to time bailiffs walk up front path.  

    Quite right to, IMHO.  

    Artful, landlord since 2000
    Seriously??!! Have you read this thread at all. We are trying to sell my fathers home to fund his care and you think it acceptable for a non paying tenant to owe £14,000 in arrears and have 14 months to find somewhere new, whilst receiving benefits to pay for their accommodation?  We are just trying to sell which my father actually owes. 
    All his posts take the same tone, usually cocky sarcasm that’s no help to the original poster, ignore him!

    99.9% of his posts are pointless!
    Thank you for your kind words Mark!
  • theartfullodger
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    edited 1 March 2023 at 2:46PM
    jillconey said:
    We have issued Section 21, section 8 and bern granted Mandatory Procession in December 
    Thanks: Was PO for s21 or s8 please? If s8 which grounds please?? (Understanding this will help focus on the exact process you are going through, they differ depending on s21 or s8 & on which grounds for s8.

    Please note from Thatcher's Housing Act 1988 s5(1)....
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/50/section/5

    """"
    5 Security of tenure.
     (1) An assured tenancy cannot be brought to an end by the landlord except by—
       (a) obtaining—
        (i) an order of the court for possession of the dwelling-house under section 7 or 21, and
        (ii) the execution of the order, etc etc etc etc 

    "Section 7" leads to s8 notices....see...
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/50/section/7

    "execution" in this case means bailiffs/HCEO turning up, and like it or not tenants have the right to challenge up to the time bailiffs walk up the path.  Tenancy not at an end until (ii) completed. 

    You appear from you posts to have completed 5(1).(a).(i).  (ii) remains
    """"

    Good luck & best wishes,

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