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  • diystarter7
    diystarter7 Posts: 5,202 Forumite
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    So pleased you've finally got possession.  Sorry that the house has been left in such a state.
    In amongst all the emotions yesterday, did you remember to take all the meter readings?  Would hate it if your (ex) tenants tried to take advantage yet again.
    Hi

    What a lovely post and great little reminder that could be easily overlooked.

    Anyone thinking of becoming a LL or is one, if you wish, read my previous post on how to avoid, mitigate
    a scenario like this

    I just hope the OP chases the T for every penny ad I dread to think who they have ended up with.


    :)
  • jillconey
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    We can’t get a meter reading. It looks like some sort of daily meter has been added to electric meter. Even the neighbour, who is an electrician of 30 years experience can’t seem to work it out. 
  • EssexHebridean
    EssexHebridean Posts: 24,424 Forumite
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    jillconey said:
    We can’t get a meter reading. It looks like some sort of daily meter has been added to electric meter. Even the neighbour, who is an electrician of 30 years experience can’t seem to work it out. 
    Post over on the energy board Jill - they will probably ask you to provide pictures of what has been put in place so might be worth having those ready. there are a number of former meter readers active posting over there who miht have seen what you have before.

    It sounds rather like it is not only you who might be owed money doesn't it!

    In any event - contact the energy supplier(s) and water supplier if there is metered water immediately to let them know you have now taken possession. You don't want them trying to pin earlier use on you! 
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  • jillconey
    jillconey Posts: 53 Forumite
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    The meter says to be a smart meter of some sort with auto readings , thanks to help of different electrician . Apparently our case has already generated 3 ccs against all defendants. 
    Heard yesterday that former landlady won her case ( 4 years later) and judgements of £40,000 for arrears and damages. Obviously tenants have no assets but will go to guarantor. As previously stated our estate agents didn’t complete paperwork correctly.  We have to give tenants option to collect their stuff and breathing space still questioning our solicitor(although debt and possession separated by court order) so we taking a break. No doubt there will claim we have damaged their stuff (settee,table, mattresses and bed frame various bags of dog toys and dog beds). Even cleaning company shuddered at mattress they have been sleep on ! 
  • jillconey
    jillconey Posts: 53 Forumite
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    3 ccjs. County court judgements. Sorry auto correct 
  • rumpetroll
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    jillconey said:
    The meter says to be a smart meter of some sort with auto readings , thanks to help of different electrician . Apparently our case has already generated 3 ccs against all defendants. 
    Heard yesterday that former landlady won her case ( 4 years later) and judgements of £40,000 for arrears and damages. Obviously tenants have no assets but will go to guarantor. As previously stated our estate agents didn’t complete paperwork correctly.  We have to give tenants option to collect their stuff and breathing space still questioning our solicitor(although debt and possession separated by court order) so we taking a break. No doubt there will claim we have damaged their stuff (settee,table, mattresses and bed frame various bags of dog toys and dog beds). Even cleaning company shuddered at mattress they have been sleep on ! 

    There will be people on here that know much better than I, but if the estate agent failed to complete the paperwork for the guarantor properly then wouldn't they be liable?
  • jillconey said:
    The meter says to be a smart meter of some sort with auto readings , thanks to help of different electrician . Apparently our case has already generated 3 ccs against all defendants. 
    Heard yesterday that former landlady won her case ( 4 years later) and judgements of £40,000 for arrears and damages. Obviously tenants have no assets but will go to guarantor. As previously stated our estate agents didn’t complete paperwork correctly.  We have to give tenants option to collect their stuff and breathing space still questioning our solicitor(although debt and possession separated by court order) so we taking a break. No doubt there will claim we have damaged their stuff (settee,table, mattresses and bed frame various bags of dog toys and dog beds). Even cleaning company shuddered at mattress they have been sleep on ! 

    There will be people on here that know much better than I, but if the estate agent failed to complete the paperwork for the guarantor properly then wouldn't they be liable?
    I think it would be worth the time of the Op to check if the EA is a member of a regulatory body and, if they are, to get copies of the relevant guidelines or code of conduct. 

    It's possible the EA would agree an amount of compensation as 'good will' for any mistake they made. 
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  • macman
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    Daily meter? Do you mean that PPM's have been fitted? Very likely if they've been defaulting on their utility bills. 
    You must take readings and register a new account, otherwise you will be paying off any debt on the meter.
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  • If you haven't already, you can check online who the supplier for the property is. They're the people you need to contact to let them know you have regained possession. 

    Even if you're not sure how to read the meter, take pictures of them both and you can send them to the supplier (who should be able to tell you what's going on and set up a fresh account for you). 

    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/finding-your-energy-supplier-or-network-operator
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  • 3card
    3card Posts: 437 Forumite
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    I know i asked this question early in the thread but why did you rely on a S21 and not a S8?
    I cant see this explained?

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