Cap on standing charges

EssexHebridean

If you believe you are being overcharged then I would say definitely escalate it as a complaint once you have checked to be 100% certain you’re not missing anything and the charge is subsequently discounted. Apologies if you have already done it but you could post the bill (with personal details and meter number removed) here and others could see if they can spot anything that might have slipped by you? At the least it might give you more confidence in making a complaint later - and of it turns out there is an error, I bet it doesn’t just affect you! The bill will also confirm the tariff details, payment method etc. 

MWT

jinman said:

...They sent me a list of the new rates and the standing charge for electricity is 43.25p per day.  When I looked on the MSE website I understood that the cap for this rate in London was 33.16p per day.

I've just checked the So Energy website and they are correctly quoting the capped rates we would expect for London postcodes on So Flex...

https://www.so.energy/our-tariffs/

What do you see there if you enter your postcode?

As someone else mentioned earlier, I wonder if you are actually in the South East region...

ariarnia

searching a couple of london postcodes i know i wonder if theres' been a silly mistake somewhere. 

is there any chance at all that someone at So (or even maybe the op) has misunderstood or misread something and there actually quoting the e7 rate. as that's coincidentally very close to the rate given in the op and it could be a typo or a badly formatted table maybe?

molerat

jinman said:

Gerry1 said:

The OP is correct: the cap for the daily standing charge for electricity in the London area paid by DD is 33.16p.

Where did you get the 33.16 figure from please?

jinman said:

Thanks for all your comments.  Unfortunately, the only place I have seen the 33.16p per day electricity standing charge, apart from on the MSE website is the EDF chart which Scot 39 gave a link to.  I can't see any govt documents that give this figure.  Without as official source I don't think I can argue with So Energy.

Default tariff cap level 9b: 1 January 2023 to 31 March 2023

which shows the standing charges and undiscounted cap prices excluding vat

Scot_39

jinman said:

Thanks for all your comments.  Unfortunately, the only place I have seen the 33.16p per day electricity standing charge, apart from on the MSE website is the EDF chart which Scot 39 gave a link to.  I can't see any govt documents that give this figure.  Without as official source I don't think I can argue with So Energy.

The press and even govt ministers have been guilty about focusing on the average figure - as does the Ofgem press release - but then it always provides the full detail tables - that it sends suppliers too.

The link to the Ofgem website in my orginal post - and again as directly linked to above by @molerat - gives the annual standing charge rates (in the NIL kWh) columns.

The 33.16p for inner London comes from the Ofgem table for SR electric - for Nil kWh - for Other Payment method (Ofgem speak for DD) = £115.26+ 5% VAT / 365 = 33.16p

Southern is £154.39 = 44.41p (42.3p ex VAT) - but that's not an exact match

As others have seen the "correct" regional rate for London post codes with your supplier, can you check your MPAN

As per my original - too long post -

If you have a bill handy, can you check actual regional code - first 2 digits on bottom line of MPAN ? 

Its normally presented in a 2 line grid - see examples at - they fromally call it the Distribution ID - there is also a regional map -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meter_Point_Administration_Number

 

London = 12

Southern = 20

Eastern = 10

Or use the link provided by @Spoonie_Turtle or SO website as others have above

They still list fixes and variable tariffs - are your figures for their standard Flex tariff ?

jinman

MWT said:

jinman said:

...They sent me a list of the new rates and the standing charge for electricity is 43.25p per day.  When I looked on the MSE website I understood that the cap for this rate in London was 33.16p per day.

I've just checked the So Energy website and they are correctly quoting the capped rates we would expect for London postcodes on So Flex...

https://www.so.energy/our-tariffs/

What do you see there if you enter your postcode?

As someone else mentioned earlier, I wonder if you are actually in the South East region...

No not in South East.  My postcode is W10.

EssexHebridean

I've just selected a random postcode to use from W10 and got this: 

Spoonie_Turtle

@jinman can you post a picture of where it says your tariff rates?  I wonder like ariarnia whether there's been a misreading - their tariff rate tables online are IMO very unintuitively formatted.

diystarter7

Hi OP

Is this what you was looking for?

Energy price cap explained | Ofgem

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk › energy-advice-households

The price cap has been replaced by the Energy Price Guarantee as the cap on consumer energy bills until April 2024. ... Daily standing charge: £0. 46.

Electricity: £0.34 per/kWh; Daily standing char...

Gas: £0.10 per kWh; Daily standing charge: £0. ...

• https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications/latest-energy-price-cap-announced-ofgem

Thanks

MWT

jinman said:

MWT said:

jinman said:

...They sent me a list of the new rates and the standing charge for electricity is 43.25p per day.  When I looked on the MSE website I understood that the cap for this rate in London was 33.16p per day.

I've just checked the So Energy website and they are correctly quoting the capped rates we would expect for London postcodes on So Flex...

https://www.so.energy/our-tariffs/

What do you see there if you enter your postcode?

As someone else mentioned earlier, I wonder if you are actually in the South East region...

No not in South East.  My postcode is W10.

Have you put your postcode into the So Energy website link I posted earlier, just to make sure there is no aberration on their system?

If that also shows the correct, lower standing charge then you are left with a communication error...