Friend been issued S8 G8,10,11,17 how can she sort this fast

Standingstrong

UnderOffer said:

Standingstrong said:

LegallyLandlord said:

Is it during the fixed term period? If not, the landlord could always serve a s21 notice or wait and do it if the relationship has broken down. 

Shouting is never a good approach for trying to win someone round when they are ultimately in a position of strength. 

In a fixed 12 month AST expires in November this year

That’s probably made the Landlord very wary of their new tenant. They paid 1 month in Nov, then defaulted in Dec and Jan? Not good. 

But it’s not her fault her account got shut for fraud since November tho? The la was understandably fine and so was the LL

Standingstrong

housebuyer143 said:

I think your friend needs to look at their choices. Not paying any rent apart from the first payment but apparently having the money in the bank to do so is disgusting behaviour and was only going to end one way. 

I imagine they have been called and chased countless times as landlords don't just pay for court proceedings for fun.

How is it disgusting that she couldn’t get to her money because of the fraud on her acocunt the bank shut her account for 2 months , she couldn’t buy food or electric. 

How dare you try call this disgusting when she couldn’t even afford to feed herself through this 

housebuyer143

Standingstrong said:

housebuyer143 said:

I think your friend needs to look at their choices. Not paying any rent apart from the first payment but apparently having the money in the bank to do so is disgusting behaviour and was only going to end one way. 

I imagine they have been called and chased countless times as landlords don't just pay for court proceedings for fun.

How is it disgusting that she couldn’t get to her money because of the fraud on her acocunt the bank shut her account for 2 months , she couldn’t buy food or electric. 

How dare you try call this disgusting when she couldn’t even afford to feed herself through this 

How have they got the money to pay this right away but yet haven't done so? That's the strange thing. Either the account is blocked and they can't get the money or it isn't and they should have paid him.

MattMattMattUK

Standingstrong said:

UnderOffer said:

Standingstrong said:

LegallyLandlord said:

Is it during the fixed term period? If not, the landlord could always serve a s21 notice or wait and do it if the relationship has broken down. 

Shouting is never a good approach for trying to win someone round when they are ultimately in a position of strength. 

In a fixed 12 month AST expires in November this year

That’s probably made the Landlord very wary of their new tenant. They paid 1 month in Nov, then defaulted in Dec and Jan? Not good. 

But it’s not her fault her account got shut for fraud since November tho? The la was understandably fine and so was the LL

It may or may not be her fault that her account got frozen in November, that is irrelevant though. She could have opened a new account with a different bank and had her income paid into that account to allow her to pay her rent. As you have already said even ignoring that she already has the ability to pay the landlord again but still has not done so and is instead delaying whilst talking of writing a letter. Neither of those actions demonstrate that she views paying her rent as a priority, neither of those actions demonstrate that she has a desire to get this issue sorted, therefore then landlord wants her gone.

elsien

Standingstrong said:

UnderOffer said:

Standingstrong said:

LegallyLandlord said:

Is it during the fixed term period? If not, the landlord could always serve a s21 notice or wait and do it if the relationship has broken down. 

Shouting is never a good approach for trying to win someone round when they are ultimately in a position of strength. 

In a fixed 12 month AST expires in November this year

That’s probably made the Landlord very wary of their new tenant. They paid 1 month in Nov, then defaulted in Dec and Jan? Not good. 

But it’s not her fault her account got shut for fraud since November tho? The la was understandably fine and so was the LL

Clearly not that fine if they’ve now served her notice.

RAS

I doubt the friend would be able to open another account if the existing one was suspended because of potential fraud.

Standingstrong

She’s gone through her notice papers and they haven’t included the rental statement ? Does that mean notice is valid ?


and when she pays off the arrears in full this week will the notice expire? as there is no arrears 

she’s going to pay December January and February so basically 3 months rent this week 

anselld

Standingstrong said:

She’s gone through her notice papers and they haven’t included the rental statement ? Does that mean notice is valid ?

Doesn't invalidate the notice but evidence would need to be produced if Court proceedings were started.

Standingstrong said:

and when she pays off the arrears in full this week will the notice expire? as there is no arrears 

No it does not expire, it remains valid for 1 year.  Grounds 11 and 17 remain available immediately as explained already.  Grounds 8 and 10 could still be used if arrears occur again in future.

Standingstrong said:

she’s going to pay December January and February so basically 3 months rent this week 

Yes.  Why not do at least Dec and Jan today.  What is she waiting for?

macman

I think your friend needs to accept that relations with the LL have broken down irretrievably and that, even if the arrears are paid in full tomorrow, the LL is likely to continue with seeking to gain possession under 11 and 17.
I doubt they want to risk further loss of income by waiting to serve an S21 in November, if that is the end of the fixed term TA.

billy2shots

I might be reading between the lines but the reluctance to pay without assurance that all will be ok, suggests to me that rent owed  will only be paid if the person knows they will stay. 

No assurances are being given here hence why rent has not been sent ASAP. 

Sounds like 'if I'm being kicked out, I will not pay and may as well keep the money'. 


Only from how this thread is reading.