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  • Kim1965
    Kim1965 Posts: 550 Forumite
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    calcotti said:
    MikeJXE said:. 
    I'm not a great believer in voluntary work or even charity for the simple reason someone further up the pole is not voluntary and collecting massive salaries 
    I can’t see how the fact that charities need some paid staff undermines the value of volunteering if the cause is one you agree in (although you might not wish to donate money to those who you consider to have overpaid executives).
    As Mike said, the problem isn't with a charity hiring an accountant, or a teacher for 30k, the problem comes from many bosses of these charities taking home hundreds of thousands of pounds from money that has been donated.

    CEO compensation among charities in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
    Do you think an ordinary working person like myself would make a good candidate for that job, or do you think that the trustees would more likely employ someone with CEO experience?
    Don't put yourself down, even the most experienced CEOs had to start somewhere.  No harm in sending off a CV or two!  :  )
    I do believe that I, as a sixty year old have a lot to offer, but I am not a risk taker and I do not want change.
    I also thought you would like to retire? 
  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,938 Forumite
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    Kim1965 said:
    calcotti said:
    MikeJXE said:. 
    I'm not a great believer in voluntary work or even charity for the simple reason someone further up the pole is not voluntary and collecting massive salaries 
    I can’t see how the fact that charities need some paid staff undermines the value of volunteering if the cause is one you agree in (although you might not wish to donate money to those who you consider to have overpaid executives).
    As Mike said, the problem isn't with a charity hiring an accountant, or a teacher for 30k, the problem comes from many bosses of these charities taking home hundreds of thousands of pounds from money that has been donated.

    CEO compensation among charities in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia
    Do you think an ordinary working person like myself would make a good candidate for that job, or do you think that the trustees would more likely employ someone with CEO experience?
    Don't put yourself down, even the most experienced CEOs had to start somewhere.  No harm in sending off a CV or two!  :  )
    I do believe that I, as a sixty year old have a lot to offer, but I am not a risk taker and I do not want change.
    I also thought you would like to retire? 
    I think about it, but I don't have enough money to fund the gap to state pension age. I find that if money is tight, those that enjoy their jobs, will continue working.
    My sister is still working at 69, still working so that she can afford numerous holidays.
  • pensionpawn
    pensionpawn Posts: 1,016 Forumite
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    L9XSS said:
    There is a real issue with those that reached some financial flexibility that the work place seems unable to facilitate the worker that does not need to work for the money as the primary cause.  Everything is geared to those that want to desperately climb the ladder and be rewarded through increased salary.  Those that have financial flexibility may well want a less-than-full-time role and just do the core job without being concerned with strategy away-days and all the other activities that burn time.
    My view entirely, 18 months into a less demanding colleague role with another employer after deciding that financially i could “downsize my 35 year career”and I’m being touted for a management position if im interested......yes I’m flattered but I’m happy with my undemanding PT role here as a glide path, semi retirement to full retirement. Never been happier in a job role
    Precisely. I dropped my hours to 70% and by the nature of my role I work flat out for a couple of months and then have around 3 - 4 weeks off, repeat. Signals to my management that I'm not up for any more responsibility, professional development, cross training etc. They know that I do a good job and that if they just leave me alone to continue doing that everyone wins. Never been happier!
  • L9XSS
    L9XSS Posts: 438 Forumite
    Third Anniversary 100 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! Name Dropper
    L9XSS said:
    There is a real issue with those that reached some financial flexibility that the work place seems unable to facilitate the worker that does not need to work for the money as the primary cause.  Everything is geared to those that want to desperately climb the ladder and be rewarded through increased salary.  Those that have financial flexibility may well want a less-than-full-time role and just do the core job without being concerned with strategy away-days and all the other activities that burn time.
    My view entirely, 18 months into a less demanding colleague role with another employer after deciding that financially i could “downsize my 35 year career”and I’m being touted for a management position if im interested......yes I’m flattered but I’m happy with my undemanding PT role here as a glide path, semi retirement to full retirement. Never been happier in a job role
    Precisely. I dropped my hours to 70% and by the nature of my role I work flat out for a couple of months and then have around 3 - 4 weeks off, repeat. Signals to my management that I'm not up for any more responsibility, professional development, cross training etc. They know that I do a good job and that if they just leave me alone to continue doing that everyone wins. Never been happier!
    My “PT role” allows me to work 3x8 hour days and 4 days off. Win win situation. Very flexible employer.
  • Malthusian
    Malthusian Posts: 11,055 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2023 at 3:29PM
    I do believe that I, as a sixty year old have a lot to offer, but I am not a risk taker and I do not want change.
    You wouldn't be the one taking any risk. If the charity was run into the ground after sacking the CEO and replacing them with some random person willing to work for cheap, who had no idea what they were doing and was unable to command the confidence of anyone who kept the charity going, it would be the board of Trustees who would get it in the neck. You would just walk off into the sunset with a golden handshake and an amusing story. 
    (Bear in mind you can't just sack the CEO and replace them with a random person willing to work for £25k or even £50k a year, and have them give orders to a Finance Director earning £150k a year and a Head of Fundraising earning £100k a year. So really we're talking about sacking the entire C-level leadership and replacing them with randoms willing to run a huge charity for peanuts.)
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