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Renting. Help.

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  • Petstalk
    Petstalk Posts: 203 Forumite
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    tripled

    Very much struggling.
    Understand landlord's property and able to sell it.

    Fixed term ended May 2012.
    (rolling/periodic tenancy)
    Deposit given, understanding protected.
    England
    No received a Section 21.
    Trying my best in the situation
    Its very challenging times with regards property to rent.
    The local council, section 21 befor will help.

    I don't want fighting with anyone, including landlord.

    Thankyou so much for sharing and will read through.
  • tripled
    tripled Posts: 2,883 Forumite
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    edited 24 October 2022 at 3:20PM
    Petstalk said:
    Yes LL wants to sell. To Look for another house to move. Yes down side of tenant renting.

    Only received informal notice

    S21 notice not been issued.

    Didn't know S21 can't issue one as no gas certificate. 

    Can I ask for deposit in full befor vacated property? 
    It's unsettling, but as it stands it's just a request from the landlord.

    Regarding the gas certificate and the S21, I don't know if that applies to periodic tenancies started before 2015, perhaps one of the experts will confirm.

    You could ask about the deposit, but the landlord is under no obligation to refund it before you move out, and I wouldn't expect them to. Normally, at the same time or soon after you move out and return the keys, the check out will be completed. All being well, the landlord should then arrange for the return the deposit. If they do not, or they are trying to claim deductions, then you can raise a dispute with the deposit protection scheme. It can take from a few days to a number of weeks depending on how co-operative the landlord is and if there is a dispute.
    Petstalk said:
    saajan_12
    Periodic tenancy after first 6 months Tenancy 10.5 years ago. No Tenancy renewals after the first 6 months Tenancy.

    When fair Rent increase befor. It was by text day befor 6 months rent due. No notice, No Section 13. No new Tenancy agreement with the rent increases.
    Unless the increases are in line with any terms specified in your original tenancy, then they are essentially requests. You have agreed to the ones in the past by paying the increased amount. You are not obliged to agree to such requests in the future, in which case the landlord would need to follow the statutory process to increase the rent or regain possession.
    Petstalk said:
    tripled

    Very much struggling.
    Understand landlord's property and able to sell it.

    Fixed term ended May 2012.
    (rolling/periodic tenancy)
    Deposit given, understanding protected.
    England
    No received a Section 21.
    Trying my best in the situation
    Its very challenging times with regards property to rent.
    The local council, section 21 befor will help.

    I don't want fighting with anyone, including landlord.

    Thankyou so much for sharing and will read through.
    You should have been given information on the protection of your deposit when you took out the tenancy. If you can't remember or have lost the details, you could try the advice on the Shelter website to see if you can find it. If the deposit was not protected, or the landlord/agent did not give you the information, then the landlord would need to protect it and issue you the information before an S21 would be valid.

    I wouldn't count on the council stepping in straight away when you get an S21, you may need to sit tight as long as possible, as frustrating and difficult as that may be.
  • london21
    london21 Posts: 2,196 Forumite
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    Petstalk said:
    London21
    Rent paid until 15.11.2022.
    Yes been at the house 11 years.

    Yes No  Gas safety every year or
    Electrical certificate  5 years 
    EPC out of date.
    Yes paid deposit.
    Really hard regards to accommodation at this time with my health too :-(.

    You cannot stay there forever; can your local council or social services help you with finding alternative accommodation.

    You will have to start taking some steps towards finding another property. 


  • I pray this is sorted amicably v soon
  • TripleH
    TripleH Posts: 3,188 Forumite
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    @Petstalk, to answer the question about inventory (also for other new readers), when you leave a rental, deductions from your deposit are determined by comparing the condition of the property when you leave vs when you move in.
    This is adjusted to reflect normal wear and tear. The longer you're there the more wear is expected (so after 11 years, unless redecorated by landlord, any deductions will be minimal).
    If there is a dispute over deductions, the check-in inventory will be used as the starting point. No check-in inventory means no evidence (unless photos) of what the property was like when you moved in, so it becomes hard to argue deductions.
    In our last rental, the letting agents tried to claim 'damage to the kitchen units from our cats chewing the wooden frame' these were pre-existing and done by the previous occupants dog. They quoted the check-in inventory. My response was that we never received one (attached copy emails of all we received) so they couldn't quote from a document we had no access to.
    We got our deposit back in full.
    May you find your sister soon Helli.
    Sleep well.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    From what I have read so far the LL has little hope of getting a S21 eviction notice without first doing his/her job.
    No Gas Safe Certificate
    No EICR
    Then No S21
    This does not help you find a new place to rent in London where the rental market is stupid with rents going crazy due to huge demand and many landlords selling up 
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    edited 8 December 2022 at 10:20PM
    With a clueless and incompetent LL like this, there is no chance of the OP being evicted  much before next summer, if they choose not to vacate at end of the notice period.
    OP, if you do want to engage with your LL then you might remind them that the non-supply of a GSC is a criminal offence, with an unlimited fine and a potential custodial sentence. Why have you not pursued this for several years, as it endangers your own safety and that of your neighbours?
    You can use the threat of reporting it to EH in your negotiations.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Petstalk
    Petstalk Posts: 203 Forumite
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    edited 12 August 2023 at 11:01AM
    UPDATE. 
    Would very much appreciate any further advise, help, support please.

    Never receive any post to LL (In the name of one LL) 

    Today In the name of Lady LL
    received a letter at my  property from a solicitor on behalf of the Morgage company.

    LL Failed to pay mortgage repayments in arears.

    Received no further communication from LL. Notice from the Landlord ect.

    Property/Morgage understand both names LL and Ex Husband.

    Remorgaged 2016 maybe in just one LL name.

    Would very much appreciate any further advise, help, support.

    Rent due 15th to LL?

    Do I just send back. Not at this Address?
  • Have you read the stickie?

    Post 6: Repossession: what if a LL's mortgage lender repossesses the property?
  • Petstalk
    Petstalk Posts: 203 Forumite
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    propertyrental

    Unsure regards paying Rent to LL?

    Thankyou so much. Read the stickie?

    "Post 6: Repossession: what if a LL's mortgage lender repossesses the property?"
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