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Energy Price Guarantee No Longer 2 years just 6 months at current level
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There's only so much that honest hard-working ordinary people can do to make savings.6
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AlanGF1969 said:Robgmun said:dunstonh said:To be honest, that is a sensible move. The current package was far too generous. Many people initially looked at how they could save energy but gave up with the EPG came.
Now people can go back to finding ways to save energy, and if they don't, then they pay for it bar those that really need support.
Plus by April, we will be through the worst and heating use will be falling.
So you can stick your post up your behind. Middle income earners need help tooAlanGF1969 said:
We need an emergency general election forced through, and get Labour into power.2 -
AlanGF1969 said:Also, why didn't they lower VAT on fuel, or altogether, get rid of it?1
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sienew said:ariarnia said:sienew said:ariarnia said:
i would say property size or epc rating not household. with supplement for age and disability. two people in a flat dont use much more electric and probably no more heating at all than one person but someone in a three bed uses more than someone in a flat.sienew said:
Change it to per person instead of per household and I think that works better. By household is incredibly bad targeting, a student in a tiny 1 bedroom flat (who lets be honest is almost never home) doesn't need the same support as a family home with 4-5 people living in it. A grant per person works far better as it should allow for a basic usage for everyone in the household.mmmmikey said:GingerTim said:
This is what's being strongly hinted at by Faisal Islam on the BBC.sienew said:
Like I said before the EPG was announced I am a big fan of proposals that gives every person an allowance of cheap/subsidised energy to provide for their basic need. If you go above that basic need the prices shouldn't be subsidised by the taxpayer.
Or maybe the Rishi Sunak approach of giving every household the first £400 worth of energy for free and splitting that into 6 payments over the most expensive months of the year, and providing additional help on top of that for those that need it most. Sure, it could benefit from being finessed to better support the "squeezed middle" but not a bad idea IMHO.
We all have basic needs and it's reasonable to make them affordable to people. The government paying thousands of pounds for a single person to live in a 4-5 bedroom house isn't an essential need. Government money (basically our money) isn't unlimited and should always be targeted. It's easy to justify a subsidised X kwh allowance for everyone to cover basic needs, it becomes much harder to justify handing people money because they happen to live in a larger house (which often are less occupied than smaller ones), especially when you consider the poorest who most need help tend to live in the smaller houses.
anything else is politics. and i have no interest in politics.
Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott
It's amazing how those with a can-do attitude and willingness to 'pitch in and work' get all the luck, isn't it?
Please consider buying some pet food and giving it to your local food bank collection or animal charity. Animals aren't to blame for the cost of living crisis.1 -
AlanGF1969 said:Along with the general cost of living, and higher mortgage repayments, this absolute sickening decision by the imbecile Hunt today is going to force thousands of households into losing their homes and unable to eat properly. The big energy companies should have been forced to pay for the bulk of the energy price freeze - their profits disgustingly high!
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Those here who oppose profiteering may think that the answer to all of our ills is to raise corporation tax to 100%.I have osteoarthritis in my hands so I speak my messages into a microphone using Dragon. Some people make "typos" but I often make "speakos".0
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Sterlingtimes said:Those here who oppose profiteering may think that the answer to all of our ills is to raise corporation tax to 100%.0
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This maybe mixed up logic on my behalf but I had worked out that if I could reduce my gas by third (GCH) this winter and add the £400 grant I could keep my energy costs pretty much in line with last year, so no big increase in direct debit as on fixed private pension income, however with todays news I'm thinking unless I reduce the usage even more this year (even though we have the epg until April) I am likely to end up a big monthly dd demand in April.anyway. But of course no way of knowing by how much I need to reduce usage to offset unknown increased costs. I've seen posts saying we need to cut our cloth etc but it is very hard to cut your cloth when you have no idea if your costs are going to be doubled, trebled or even ten times as much. It's not as simple as some people on here like to suggest. And yes I would go back to work if my health would allow it.7
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Sterlingtimes said:Those here who oppose profiteering may think that the answer to all of our ills is to raise corporation tax to 100%.Almost everything will work again if you unplug it for a few minutes, including you. Anne Lamott
It's amazing how those with a can-do attitude and willingness to 'pitch in and work' get all the luck, isn't it?
Please consider buying some pet food and giving it to your local food bank collection or animal charity. Animals aren't to blame for the cost of living crisis.1 -
If just IF they were to introduce a cap on a maximum of 80% of this year's usage for next year (not sure if they might do that or not), If you have already done the work to get down from 10KWh/day to 20KWh/Day this year then you'd get capped rates on 8KWh/day next year instead of 16Kwh. would need quite a calculator
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