Energy Price Guarantee No Longer 2 years just 6 months at current level

Ultrasonic

Talking about energy use with no knowledge at all of someone's personal circumstances can easily be misleading.

Spoonie_Turtle

chris1973 said:

Even where the Smart Plug does draw less current than whatever on stand by is connected to it, you still have to claw back the purchase cost of the Smart Plug.

Better to just get off the Sofa, and plug in what you need when you need it. You remove all standby current and save the cost of purchasing the smart plug. Win - Win. Unless you live in a Palace or a 50 room hotel, I can't see how that would be a chore.

One scenario where they may well be worth it is when plugs are inaccessible, with things drawing non-negligible power on standby. 

ChaunceyGardiner

Miser1964 said:

I truly believe a military coup is needed in this country, so the Generals can run Britain for 10 to 15 years until we are back on our feet.

Lol, don’t be silly.

ChaunceyGardiner

Miser1964 said:

Those that will not work, shall not eat. Simples.

Away back to the Mail Online comments section.

dunstonh

Ultrasonic said:

Talking about energy use with no knowledge at all of someone's personal circumstances can easily be misleading.

Indeed it would.  But the threads of those that engage in trying to save money usually go on to give a lot of information and get a lot of guidance.

BooJewels

Spoonie_Turtle said:

chris1973 said:

Even where the Smart Plug does draw less current than whatever on stand by is connected to it, you still have to claw back the purchase cost of the Smart Plug.

Better to just get off the Sofa, and plug in what you need when you need it. You remove all standby current and save the cost of purchasing the smart plug. Win - Win. Unless you live in a Palace or a 50 room hotel, I can't see how that would be a chore.

One scenario where they may well be worth it is when plugs are inaccessible, with things drawing non-negligible power on standby. 

That's exactly how I use mine - with low wattage LED lamps.  I use them both as sophisticated timer switches (lovely that I can have them come on at sunset every day without faffing about trying to reset timers periodically as days change length, or the clocks change) and a remote control for lamps I can't easily access to switch on manually.

I  didn't buy mine to save money, but for my own convenience and ease of use - so I got my moneys worth within days. I suspect I might even save a few bob, as I can override them easily when not actually required.  

Chrysalis

Mstty said:

Quite a few of us called this back in October it will not be guaranteed for 2 years that was fiscal suicide.

What a mess they have created.

If they did a tiered unit EPG and didnt do all the corp tax and top rate tax nonsense they may have got away with the budget without confidence been lost in it.

But they as you said just went in without a care in the world.

Also I wonder if the dailies are going to skyrocket following the announcement, it seemed coincidental daily prices plummeted when the EPG started.  Although seems more likely they went down when Europe stopped filling its gas reserve.

Chrysalis

chris1973 said:

using smart plugs everywhere to not have anything on standby

Totally counterproductive you do know that Smart Plugs continually draw energy and themselves have a standby quiescent current to enable them to constantly remain connected to wifi and ready to switch on don't you?

Even where the Smart Plug does draw less current than whatever on stand by is connected to it, you still have to claw back the purchase cost of the Smart Plug.

Better to just get off the Sofa, and plug in what you need when you need it. You remove all standby current and save the cost of purchasing the smart plug. Win - Win. Unless you live in a Palace or a 50 room hotel, I can't see how that would be a chore.

If you have kids, deduct pocket money or Games Console time, for occasions where they leave the TV, chargers, consoles, lights etc on. They'll soon adapt. Life is tough, its going to be even tougher by the time they have bills of their own to pay!.

Indeed I did purchase some smart plugs recently but that was because of my disability, for access reasons, I wouldnt have done it otherwise.

Chrysalis

Sterlingtimes said:

Those here who oppose profiteering may think that the answer to all of our ills is to raise corporation tax to 100%.

Do you think everyone only thinks in blank and white?

Ultrasonic

dunstonh said:

Ultrasonic said:

Talking about energy use with no knowledge at all of someone's personal circumstances can easily be misleading.

Indeed it would.  But the threads of those that engage in trying to save money usually go on to give a lot of information and get a lot of guidance.

I was referring to the posts in this thread.