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claim form received from UKPC 4 year old parking fine!!!

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 3 October 2022 at 7:36PM
     i live at 5 but accidentally put 55 so letters were going there until they paid the money to dvla to get my actual address.
    They probably didn't, because they aren't allowed to go to the DVLA late, or twice.

    They did a 'soft trace' for 29 pence, which is allowed and leaves no trace on your credit record.

    I will be posting my draft defence in the next couple of days but was just woundering if i still have a case as they offered me to pay a reduce amount (£15) but because i put a wrong digit in the appeal i did not recieve that letter.
    You have no choice but to defend and you do have a case, because the driver's Blue Badge was visible and even charging £15 is (arguably) a breach of the Equality Act 2010.

    They should just cancel the charge to avoid causing detriment to disabled persons and in fact should never have issued the PCN. This is confirmed under the new (currently stalled but ready to come in next year) DLUHC Parking Code of Practice which says in the Appeals Charter that PCNs are to be cancelled when a motorists shows their Blue Badge. And in this case, they could see it all along.

     have actually admitted i was driving when i was not the driver or registered keeper, bear in mind this is 4 years old parking charge so i was not up to date on the process to follow...
    What's your connection to the car then, why did you appeal?
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  • Abzg2k19
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    I had no connection to the vehicle at the time of pcn,i appealed using my details as i thought they can see the blue badge in thier pics and maybe they will drop the pcn but how wrong was i,
    I did not know about these forms at that time. 
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    1. The parking charges referred to in this claim did not arise from any agreement of terms. The charge and the claim was an unexpected shock. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that any conduct by the driver was a breach of any prominent term and it is denied that this Claimant (understood to have a bare licence as managers) has standing to sue or form contracts in their own name. Liability is denied, whether or not the Claimant is claiming 'keeper liability', which is unclear from the Particulars.


    2. It is admitted that the Defendant did email UKPC regarding the charge but as helper for his father who was the driver on that day and mother who is the registered keeper, the Defendant was not the driver at the time.

    3. As seen in the pictures that UKPC have taken you can clearly see a blue badge and after appealing with blue badge pictures also sent in the appeal UKPC still refused to drop the charge and offered a goodwill gesture to make the driver still pay £15   so they have breached the Equality Rights Act 2010 

    4. The driver visited the shopping park with his disabled daughter and parked in a disabled bay with a disabled badge but while getting his daughter out, the card must have slipped onto the side but you can clearly see it in the photos that UKPC took, thus was allowed to park there under Equality Rights Act 2010.


    5. UKPC should have just cancel the charge to avoid causing detriment to disabled persons and in fact should never have issued the PCN. This is confirmed under the new (currently stalled but ready to come in next year) DLUHC Parking Code of Practice which says in the Appeals Charter that PCNs are to be cancelled when a motorists shows their Blue Badge. And in this case, they could see it all along

    6. The BPA Code of Practice makes an explicit statement about Blue Badges:

    • 6.1 If your landowner provides a concession that allows parking for disabled people, if a vehicle displays a valid Blue Badge you must not issue it with parking charge notices.

    • 6.2 In this instance the badge had fell of the dashboard after it was displayed and after appealing with pictures of the badge the charge should have been cancelled.

    7. The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief. To pre-empt the usual template responses from this serial litigator: the court process is outside of the Defendant's life experience and they cannot be criticised for adapting some pre-written wording from a reliable advice resource. The Claimant is urged not to patronise the Defendant with (ironically template) unfounded accusations of not understanding their defence.

    8. With regard to template statements, the Defendant observes after researching other parking claims, that the Particulars of Claim ('POC') set out a cut-and-paste incoherent statement of case.  Prior to this - and in breach of the pre-action protocol for 'Debt' Claims - no copy of the contract (sign) accompanied any Letter of Claim.  The POC is sparse on facts about the allegation which makes it difficult to respond in depth at this time; however the claim is unfair, objectionable, generic and inflated.

    9. This Claimant continues to pursue a hugely disproportionate fixed sum (routinely added per PCN) despite knowing that this is now banned. It is denied that the quantum sought is recoverable (authorities: two well-known ParkingEye cases where modern penalty law rationale was applied).  Attention is drawn to paras 98, 100, 193, 198 of ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC67.  Also ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd ChD [2011] EWHC 4023(QB) where the parking charge was £75, discounted to £37.50 for prompt payment.  Whilst £75 was reasonable, HHJ Hegarty (sitting at the High Court; later ratified by the CoA) held in paras 419-428 that unspecified 'admin costs' inflating it to £135 'would appear to be penal'.

    10. This finding is underpinned by the Government, who have now stated that attempts to gild the lily by adding 'debt recovery costs' were 'extorting money'.  The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities ('DLUHC') published in February 2022, a statutory Code of Practice, found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/private-parking-code-of-practice

    11. Adding costs/damages/fees (however described) onto a parking charge is now banned. In a section called 'Escalation of costs' the incoming statutory Code of Practice says: "The parking operator must not levy additional costs over and above the level of a parking charge or parking tariff as originally issued." 

    12. The Code's Ministerial Foreword is unequivocal about abusive existing cases such as the present claim: "Private firms issue roughly 22,000 parking tickets every day, often adopting a labyrinthine system of misleading and confusing signage, opaque appeals services, aggressive debt collection and unreasonable fees designed to extort money from motorists." 

    13. The DLUHC consulted for over two years and considered evidence from a wide range of stakeholders.  Almost a fifth of all respondents to the 2021 Technical Consultation called for false fees to be scrapped altogether; this despite the parking industry flooding both public consultations, some even masquerading as consumers. The DLUHC saw through this and in a published Response, they identified that some respondents were 'parking firms posing as motorists'.  Genuine consumer replies pointed out that successful debt recovery does not trigger court proceedings and the debt recovery/robo-claim law firms operate on a 'no win, no fee' basis, seeking to inflate the sum of the parking charge, which in itself is already sufficiently enhanced.

    14. This Claimant has not incurred any additional costs (not even for reminder letters) because the (already high) parking charge more than covers what the Supreme Court in Beavis called an automated letter-chain business model that generates a healthy profit.

    15. The driver did not agree to pay a parking charge, let alone unknown costs, which were not quantified in prominent text on signage. It comes too late when purported debt recovery fees are only quantified after the event. 

    16. Whilst the new Code and Act is not retrospective, it was enacted due to the failure of the self-serving BPA & IPC Codes of Practice.  The Minister is indisputably talking about existing (not future) cases when declaring that 'recovery' fees were 'designed to extort money'.  A clear steer for the Courts.

    17. This overrides mistakes made in the appeal cases that the parking industry try to rely upon (Britannia v Semark-Jullien, One Parking Solution v Wilshaw, Vehicle Control Services v Ward and Vehicle Control Services v Percy).  Far from being persuasive, regrettably these one-sided appeals were findings by Circuit Judges who appeared to be inexperienced in the nuances of private parking law and were led in one direction by Counsel for parking firms, and the litigant-in-person consumers lacked the wherewithal to appeal further.  In case this Claimant tries to rely upon those cases, the Defendant avers that significant errors were made.  Evidence was either overlooked (including inconspicuous signage in Wilshaw, where the Judge was also oblivious to the BPA Code of Practice, including rules for surveillance cameras and the DVLA KADOE requirement for landowner authority) or the Judge inexplicably sought out and quoted from the wrong Code altogether (Percy).  In Ward, a few seconds' emergency stop out of the control of the driver was unfairly aligned with the admitted contract in Beavis. Those learned Judges were not in possession of the same level of facts and evidence as the DLUHC, whose Code now clarifies all such matters.
         POFA and CRA breaches

    18. Pursuant to Schedule 4 paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ('the POFA') the sum claimed exceeds the maximum potentially recoverable from a registered keeper, even in cases where a firm may have complied with other POFA requirements (adequate signage, Notice to Keeper wording/dates, and a properly communicated 'relevant contract/relevant obligation').  If seeking keeper/hirer liability - unclear from the POC - the Claimant is put to strict proof of full compliance and liability transferred. 
    19. Claiming costs on an indemnity basis is unfair, per the Unfair Contract Terms Guidance (CMA37, para 5.14.3), the Government guidance on the Consumer Rights Act 2015 ('CRA').  The CRA introduced new requirements for 'prominence' of both contract terms and 'consumer notices'.  In a parking context, this includes signage and all notices, letters and other communications intended to be read by the consumer.
    20. Section 71 creates a duty upon courts to consider the test of fairness, including (but not limited to) whether all terms/notices were unambiguously and conspicuously brought to the attention of a consumer.  In the case of a 'PCN', this must have been served to the driver whilst the vehicle was stationary or, at sites remotely monitored by ANPR/CCTV, served to the keeper so that the motorist learns about it quickly. Signage must be prominent, plentiful, well placed and lit, and all terms unambiguous and obligations clear. The Defendant avers that the CRA has been breached due to unfair/unclear terms and notices, pursuant to s62 and paying due regard to examples 6, 10, 14 & 18 of Schedule 2 and the requirements for fair dealing and good faith. 

         ParkingEye v Beavis is distinguished (lack of legitimate.          interest/prominence of terms)

    21. ParkingEye overcame the possibility of their £85 charge being dismissed as punitive, however the Supreme Court clarified that ‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged’ in parking cases, which must be determined on their own facts.  That 'unique' case met a commercial justification test, given the location and clear signs with the parking charge in the largest/boldest text.  Rather than causing other parking charges to be automatically justified, the Beavis case facts (in particular, the brief, conspicuous yellow & black warning signs) set a high bar that this Claimant has failed to reach.
    22. Without the Beavis case to support the claim and no alternative calculation of loss/damage, this claim must fail.  Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of a legitimate interest in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach.  The intention cannot be to punish a driver, nor to present them with hidden terms, unexpected/cumbersome obligations nor any 'concealed pitfalls or traps'.
    23. In the present case, the Claimant has fallen foul of those tests. The Claimant’s small signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, and are considered incapable of binding a driver.  Consequently, it remains the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous penalty was seen or agreed.  Binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of a parking charge, include:
    (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 (‘red hand rule’) and
    (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd [1970] EWCA Civ2,
    both leading authorities confirming that a clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and
    (ii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where Ms Vine won because it was held that she had not seen the terms by which she would later be bound.  It was unsurprising that she did not see the sign, due to "the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the parking space'' (NB: when parking operator Claimants cite Vine, they often mislead courts by quoting out of context, Roch LJ's words about the Respondent’s losing case, and not from the ratio).  
    24. Fairness and clarity of terms and notices are paramount in the statutory Code and this is supported by the BPA & IPC Trade Bodies.  In November 2020's Parking Review, solicitor Will Hurley, CEO of the IPC, observed: "Any regulation or instruction either has clarity or it doesn’t. If it’s clear to one person but not another, there is no clarity. The same is true for fairness. Something that is fair, by definition, has to be all-inclusive of all parties involved – it’s either fair or it isn’t. The introduction of a new ‘Code of Practice for Parking’ provides a wonderful opportunity to provide clarity and fairness for motorists and landowners alike." 
       Lack of landowner authority evidence and lack of ADR
    25. DVLA data is only supplied to pursue parking charges if there is an agreement flowing from the landholder (ref: KADOE rules).  It is not accepted that the Claimant has adhered to a defined enforcement boundary, grace period or exemptions (whatever the landowner's definitions were) nor that this Claimant has authority from the landowner to issue charges in this specific area.  The Claimant is put to strict proof of all of this, and that they have standing to make contracts with drivers and litigate in their own name, rather than merely acting as agents.
    26. The Claimant failed to offer a genuinely independent Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR). The Appeals Annex in the new Code shows that genuine disputes such as this - even if the facts were narrowed later - would have seen the charge cancelled, had a fair ADR existed.  Whether or not a person engaged with it, the Claimant's consumer blame culture and reliance upon the industry's own 'appeals service' should not sway the court into a belief that a fair ADR was ever on offer. The rival Trade Bodies' time-limited and opaque 'appeals' services fail to properly consider facts or rules of law and would have rejected almost any dispute: e.g. the IAS upheld appeals in a woeful 4% of decided cases (IPC's 2020 Annual Report).
    Conclusion
    27. The claim is entirely without merit and the Claimant is urged to discontinue now, to avoid incurring costs and wasting the court's time and that of the Defendant. 
    28. 25. With the DLUHC's ban on the false 'costs' there is ample evidence to support the view - long held by many District Judges - that these are knowingly exaggerated claims.  For HMCTS to only disallow those costs in the tiny percentage of cases that reach hearings whilst other claims to continue to flood the courts unabated, is to fail hundreds of thousands of consumers who suffer CCJs or pay inflated amounts, in fear of the intimidating pre-action demands. The Defendant believes that it is in the public interest that claims like this should be struck out because knowingly enhanced parking claims like this one cause consumer harm on a grand scale.
    Conclusion
    29. 26. In the matter of costs, the Defendant asks:
    (a) at the very least, for standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and
    (b) for a finding of unreasonable conduct by this Claimant, seeking costs pursuant to CPR 46.5. 
    30. Attention is drawn specifically to the (often-seen from this industry) possibility of an unreasonably late Notice of Discontinuance. Whilst CPR r.38.6 states that the Claimant is liable for the Defendant's costs after discontinuance (r.38.6(1)) this does not normally apply to claims allocated to the small claims track (r.38.6(3)). However, the White Book states (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2)(dg))."   

    Statement of Truth
    I believe that the facts stated in this defence are true.  I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.


         

  • Abzg2k19
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    Here is a draft of my defence just woundering if i should add anything else. Thanks
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 10 October 2022 at 2:16PM
    6 is wrong.  The BPA Code hasn't said that for about 7 years.

    And I'd add more here, as shown:

    2. It is admitted that the Defendant did email UKPC regarding the charge but as helper for his father who was the driver on that day and mother who is the registered keeper, the Defendant was not the driver at the time.  The Claimant is trying to 'shoot the messenger'; a situation that arose purely because the Defendant's father (the disabled driver) and mother (registered keeper) are both elderly and neither are tech-savvy enough to appeal online without help.  The Defendant used their own email address and details to fill in the online form but to be clear: the Defendant was neither the driver nor keeper of the vehicle and cannot be held liable for a parking charge under any rule of law. 

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  • Abzg2k19
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    Okay will delete the whole of 6 and rewrite number 2 as you have mentioned, thanks

  • Abzg2k19
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    Hi, so i have recieved the DQ and there is a question that is not on the last DQ i filled out, its asking for suitability for determination without a hearing please can you advise me what i should answer as i need to send it out to the Court and the Claimant by 8th December. Thanks 
  • Grizebeck
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    All answered on one of my previous threads
    Get it emailed asap
  • Abzg2k19
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    I have filled all the other questions just need a answer to this as it is not on the DQ i had in 2020. 

    I dont know how to find that thread so if you can please point me to the right direction that be great as i am mainly using the newbies forum.

    Thanks
  • Coupon-mad
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    You click on his username and find his threads on his profile.  It's a thread from June, with an obvious title.
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