Private sale help

Mrs44474

macman said:

If they were making a serious claim then they would need an engineer's report, which they haven't got. All they have sent you are some vague photos which don't even prove the chain has snapped. And, if it had, you are still not liable.
I'm still baffled as to why you offered to deliver a car 100 miles away for a private sale though. If i was pulling a scam like this, I wouldn't want the seller knowing where I lived. Did you deliver to an actual house, or meet at some neutral venue?

We didnt offer.. They asked. We ummed and arred about it for a few days but as we had no other interest and they didn't mind paying a non refundable deposit, we didn't really have anything to lose, except 5 hours of our time lol. It was the strangest sale we've ever made but in no way did we think we were being scammed. We delivered to their street. Though we never went in their home... My husband needed a wee but we couldn't go in to use the loo because of their dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

robatwork

Do you not realise that every additional word you say adds to the fact you're the potential victim of a scam?

It's just possible that everyone on this forum is a bit too jaded and cynical and your faith in human nature is admirable.

Or it's in fact exceedingly likely you're a bit naïve.

(For one moment put yourself in their position - you're buying a car someone has driven 2.5 hours to deliver. You have a dog who is nasty to visitors. Do you a) say they can't use the toilet or b) put the dog in another closed room for 2 mins? )

macman

What he said...
So you don't know for sure they actually lived in a house on that street, and they met you on the street? No house number?
And did you ever see the allegedly nasty dog?
Was this a cash sale by any chance?

mattyprice4004

I've just read the whole thread, and you're being taken for a ride. 
Cut all contact, ignore and the problem will go away. 

Manxman_in_exile

Becky44474 said:

macman said:

If they were making a serious claim then they would need an engineer's report, which they haven't got. All they have sent you are some vague photos which don't even prove the chain has snapped. And, if it had, you are still not liable.
I'm still baffled as to why you offered to deliver a car 100 miles away for a private sale though. If i was pulling a scam like this, I wouldn't want the seller knowing where I lived. Did you deliver to an actual house, or meet at some neutral venue?

We didnt offer.. They asked. We ummed and arred about it for a few days but as we had no other interest and they didn't mind paying a non refundable deposit, we didn't really have anything to lose, except 5 hours of our time lol. It was the strangest sale we've ever made but in no way did we think we were being scammed. We delivered to their street. Though we never went in their home... My husband needed a wee but we couldn't go in to use the loo because of their dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

 I'd stop saying things like that to anyone (whether on this forum or anywhere else) otherwise people might start to form the conclusion (albeit mistaken hopefully) that you are an experienced seller and might be in the habit of selling cars.

I'm not saying you are.  I'm saying I wouldn't say anything that could be interpreted as demonstrating that you know what you are doing when it comes to selling things.

Manxman_in_exile

Becky44474 said:

macman said:

If they were making a serious claim then they would need an engineer's report, which they haven't got. All they have sent you are some vague photos which don't even prove the chain has snapped. And, if it had, you are still not liable.
I'm still baffled as to why you offered to deliver a car 100 miles away for a private sale though. If i was pulling a scam like this, I wouldn't want the seller knowing where I lived. Did you deliver to an actual house, or meet at some neutral venue?

...We delivered to their street. Though we never went in their home... My husband needed a wee but we couldn't go in to use the loo because of their dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sorry, but what does that mean?  I could understand if you delivered it to their address and the sale was conducted outside their house and you never went inside, but to say that you delivered it to "their street" rather than to outside their house seems an odd way to express it.  Did you ever see them go in and out of the house that you were outside of?

And did you notify DVLA of the sale or did you leave it to the buyer?

robatwork said:

... (For one moment put yourself in their position - you're buying a car someone has driven 2.5 hours to deliver. You have a dog who is nasty to visitors. Do you a) say they can't use the toilet or b) put the dog in another closed room for 2 mins? )

Absolutely.  I can't see any honest reason why the "dog" could not have been put in another room.  I'm terrified of dogs myself and most dog owners are more than happy to get their dogs out of my way - even if they're "just playing".  I'd have been immediately suspicious.

@Becky44474 -  pretty much everybody has given you the same advice.  Do not engage any further with them unless and until you get notification from the court that they've issued a claim against you and are suing you.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

MarvinDay said:

pinkshoes said

In which case you are absolutely fine and they have NO case whatsoever.

Just ignore all further correspondence until you get something official from the court.

If you do feel the need to reply in writing, just state:

"The car was was sold with 12 months MOT. You inspected the car yourselves and were happy with its condition. You declined the opportunity to test drive it. All previous service receipts were shown and the car was sold with no known issues. This was a private sale so The 2015 Consumer Rights does not apply, and the car was accurately described which is what is required of a private sale. I have never had an issue with the car."

Parts of the CRA do apply 

Which parts?


https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/1/enacted

Where Part 1 applies

(1)This Part applies where there is an agreement between a trader and a consumer for the trader to supply goods, digital content or services, if the agreement is a contract.

Part 2 is unfair terms for consumer contracts only, Part 3 is misc. 

Private sales are covered by the Sale of Goods Act in they should match the description with no obligation to note defects, etc. 

OP should have title to sell and the car should be roadworthy. 

born_again

Becky44474 said:

macman said:

If they were making a serious claim then they would need an engineer's report, which they haven't got. All they have sent you are some vague photos which don't even prove the chain has snapped. And, if it had, you are still not liable.
I'm still baffled as to why you offered to deliver a car 100 miles away for a private sale though. If i was pulling a scam like this, I wouldn't want the seller knowing where I lived. Did you deliver to an actual house, or meet at some neutral venue?

We didnt offer.. They asked. We ummed and arred about it for a few days but as we had no other interest and they didn't mind paying a non refundable deposit, we didn't really have anything to lose, except 5 hours of our time lol. It was the strangest sale we've ever made but in no way did we think we were being scammed. We delivered to their street. Though we never went in their home... My husband needed a wee but we couldn't go in to use the loo because of their dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

Please tell us you did not give them the whole V5 & did fill in the new keeper address?

How did they pay the balance? Cash or Pay Pal..


I kinda gave this the benefit of doubt to start with, the more this goes on the more it screams Scam..

Mrs44474

Manxman_in_exile said:

Becky44474 said:

macman said:

If they were making a serious claim then they would need an engineer's report, which they haven't got. All they have sent you are some vague photos which don't even prove the chain has snapped. And, if it had, you are still not liable.
I'm still baffled as to why you offered to deliver a car 100 miles away for a private sale though. If i was pulling a scam like this, I wouldn't want the seller knowing where I lived. Did you deliver to an actual house, or meet at some neutral venue?

...We delivered to their street. Though we never went in their home... My husband needed a wee but we couldn't go in to use the loo because of their dog 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sorry, but what does that mean?  I could understand if you delivered it to their address and the sale was conducted outside their house and you never went inside, but to say that you delivered it to "their street" rather than to outside their house seems an odd way to express it.  Did you ever see them go in and out of the house that you were outside of?

And did you notify DVLA of the sale or did you leave it to the buyer?

robatwork said:

... (For one moment put yourself in their position - you're buying a car someone has driven 2.5 hours to deliver. You have a dog who is nasty to visitors. Do you a) say they can't use the toilet or b) put the dog in another closed room for 2 mins? )

Absolutely.  I can't see any honest reason why the "dog" could not have been put in another room.  I'm terrified of dogs myself and most dog owners are more than happy to get their dogs out of my way - even if they're "just playing".  I'd have been immediately suspicious.

@Becky44474 -  pretty much everybody has given you the same advice.  Do not engage any further with them unless and until you get notification from the court that they've issued a claim against you and are suing you.

Okay, so they lived on a main street and we couldn't park right outside their house as there were already lots of cars, we parked maybe four houses away. We do have their address. And her husband was in and out of a house though I was concentrating on my little one the majority of the time whilst hubby talked, so I wasn't paying attention to which house. But like I said, we do have their address and that's what we used via sat nav to get there. 

To be fair, they said we couldn't go in and sign the papers and had to do that outside, because of the dog. Then my husband didn't want to ask a second time concerning using the loo lol. 

We did all the v5 stuff there, my husband took part and they had some I think. We have a email from dvla saying it's no longer ours and they paid bank transfer.

I know it sounds like a scam, on paper, I see what you're all saying, but I think both parties, were both naive?? I don't know.

born_again

Mrs44474 said:I don't know.

Have you just changed your username?
As quotes still refer to old username. No way to change them..