Big Changes for E7 as part of EPG

QrizB

mmmmikey said:

@QrizB gets the prize for working it out

Aw, it was nothing

mmmmikey

QrizB said:

mmmmikey said:

@QrizB gets the prize for working it out

Aw, it was nothing

That's good to hear, because so is the prize

mmmmikey

If anyone has the British Gas October price cap rates and EPG rates, be interesting to know if they've done the same - just taken a flat 17.85p off the VAT inclusive Oct price cap rates to get the EPG rates?

michaels

mmmmikey said:

@QrizB gets the prize for working it out

17p + VAT = 17.85p

If you subtract 17.85p from the Ofgem October rates for electrcity you get the EPG rates. This is true for standard meters and both day and night rates for E7 meters across all regions for DD.

Hmm - I thought the cap and freeze prices quoted always included VAT - could this be an inadvertent pre-announcement on the removal of VAT from utility bills in the mini-budget next Friday...

philipbin

If it's any use, below is a csv for the new EDF rates

Government Energy Price Guarantee prices,,,,,,,,
"Standard (Variable), Deemed and Welcome - credit",,,,,,,,
,,Electricity,,Electricity,,,Gas,
Supply area and payment,,Standard Meter,,Economy 7 Meter,,,Standard Meter,
method,,"Daily standing
charge",Unit rate (kWh),"Daily standing
charge1",Day rate (kWh),Night rate (kWh),"Daily standing
charge","Unit rate
(kWh)"
,Direct Debit,45.760,33.020,45.860,47.310,6.900,28.480,10.237
East Midlands,Cash/Cheque,51.780,35.730,51.860,50.750,8.220,33.530,11.018
,PAYG,50.820,32.070,50.920,45.070,8.210,37.510,10.541
,Direct Debit,38.940,35.050,39.020,46.590,11.800,28.480,10.309
Eastern,Cash/Cheque,44.580,37.880,44.660,50.170,13.130,33.530,11.095
,PAYG,44.020,34.090,44.120,48.540,7.290,37.510,10.644
,Direct Debit,33.150,35.800,33.250,44.820,15.940,28.480,10.510
London,Cash/Cheque,38.490,38.660,38.570,49.180,16.290,33.530,11.306
,PAYG,38.280,34.810,38.370,46.590,11.660,37.510,10.789
,Direct Debit,49.140,33.720,49.240,43.030,14.420,28.480,10.335
Midlands,Cash/Cheque,55.340,36.470,55.420,46.260,16.130,33.530,11.120
,PAYG,54.180,32.760,54.280,45.940,8.600,37.510,10.621
,Direct Debit,49.930,32.240,50.030,41.000,13.920,28.480,10.200
North East,Cash/Cheque,56.170,34.910,56.240,43.430,16.530,33.530,10.979
,PAYG,54.970,31.290,55.070,43.430,8.790,37.510,10.538
,Direct Debit,51.080,33.070,51.160,41.280,15.580,28.480,10.277
North Scotland,Cash/Cheque,57.370,35.780,57.450,41.820,20.930,33.530,11.060
,PAYG,56.110,32.120,56.200,41.820,13.070,37.510,10.587
,Direct Debit,48.600,35.980,48.680,45.660,15.170,28.480,10.344
North Wales and Merseyside,Cash/Cheque,54.760,38.840,54.850,49.520,16.220,33.530,11.130
,PAYG,53.640,34.990,53.730,48.160,9.860,37.510,10.615
,Direct Debit,43.260,33.480,43.350,42.030,15.060,28.480,10.327
North West,Cash/Cheque,49.130,36.210,49.220,44.860,17.270,33.530,11.114
,PAYG,48.330,32.520,48.420,44.130,10.380,37.510,10.615
,Direct Debit,42.680,35.320,42.770,49.800,7.850,28.480,10.296
South East,Cash/Cheque,48.530,38.140,48.610,53.380,9.210,33.530,11.079
,PAYG,47.750,34.340,47.840,49.270,6.760,37.510,10.592
,Direct Debit,50.670,33.760,50.750,41.090,16.950,28.480,10.277
South Scotland,Cash/Cheque,56.940,36.510,57.020,44.120,18.930,33.530,11.060
,PAYG,55.700,32.800,55.790,44.100,10.990,37.510,10.587
,Direct Debit,49.170,33.970,49.260,43.930,13.650,28.480,10.394
South Wales,Cash/Cheque,55.360,36.730,55.440,47.140,15.400,33.530,11.184
,PAYG,54.210,33.010,54.300,46.710,8.010,37.510,10.645
,Direct Debit,52.640,33.860,52.740,42.750,14.820,28.480,10.426
South West,Cash/Cheque,59.030,36.610,59.100,46.250,16.140,33.530,11.218
,PAYG,57.670,32.900,57.770,45.440,9.320,37.510,10.747
,Direct Debit,44.410,34.220,44.500,43.160,15.110,28.480,10.457
Southern,Cash/Cheque,50.350,37.000,50.440,46.080,17.300,33.530,11.250
,PAYG,49.480,33.260,49.560,46.070,9.300,37.510,10.745
,Direct Debit,49.540,33.030,49.640,40.880,15.820,28.480,10.244
Yorkshire,Cash/Cheque,55.760,35.740,55.840,44.330,17.140,33.530,11.025
,PAYG,54.580,32.070,54.680,44.310,9.290,37.510,10.562
,,,,,,,,
Government Energy Price Guarantee prices,,,,,,,,
"Standard (Variable), Deemed and Welcome - prepayment",,,,,,,,
,,Electricity,,Electricity,,,Gas,
,,Standard Meter,,Economy 7 Meter,,,Standard Meter,
Supply area,,"Daily standing
charge",Unit rate (kWh),"Daily standing
charge",Day rate (kWh),Night rate (kWh),"Daily standing
charge","Unit rate
(kWh)"
East Midlands,Prepayment,50.820,32.070,50.920,44.700,8.710,37.510,10.541
Eastern,Prepayment,44.020,34.090,44.120,48.540,7.290,37.510,10.644
London,Prepayment,38.280,34.810,38.370,46.590,11.660,37.510,10.789
Midlands,Prepayment,54.180,32.760,54.280,45.940,8.600,37.510,10.621
North East,Prepayment,54.970,31.290,55.070,43.630,8.520,37.510,10.538
North Scotland,Prepayment,56.110,32.120,56.200,43.090,11.300,37.510,10.587
North Wales and Merseyside,Prepayment,53.640,34.990,53.730,48.160,9.860,37.510,10.615
North West,Prepayment,48.330,32.520,48.420,44.130,10.380,37.510,10.615
South East,Prepayment,47.750,34.340,47.840,49.270,6.760,37.510,10.592
South Scotland,Prepayment,55.700,32.800,55.790,44.980,9.780,37.510,10.587
South Wales,Prepayment,54.210,33.010,54.300,46.710,8.010,37.510,10.645
South West,Prepayment,57.670,32.900,57.770,45.440,9.320,37.510,10.747
Southern,Prepayment,49.480,33.260,49.560,46.470,8.750,37.510,10.745
Yorkshire,Prepayment,54.580,32.070,54.680,45.130,8.160,37.510,10.745

Rosie1001

What is pay as you go tariff ….

it’s nearly half the price of what I pay for my night tariff in the north east for EDF 

I pay direct debit 

[Deleted User]

See my post at the end of page 3 of this thread - it’s smart meter prepayment.

Swipe

So how do you go about getting PAYG on a smart meter?

wakeupalarm

Swipe said:

So how do you go about getting PAYG on a smart meter?

If you have a smart meter already, don't pay your bill and go into debt and they will put you onto it.   and move to the SE region.

mmmmikey

Swipe said:

So how do you go about getting PAYG on a smart meter?

First thing to do is look at the day rates and standing charges for your area and see if you really would be better overall. If so, you can then decide whether you'd prefer whatever saving you might make or the convenience of a monthly DD (either fixed or the full amount owing). After that, I suggest you contact EDF and ask them what their policy is - i.e. what the cost of changing is (if any) and whether they allow this at all. Clearly the last post is tongue-in-cheek - getting yourself into debt just to get one has all kinds of implications for your credit rating and could effect you very badly for many years to come. (And who the hell would want to live in the SE ?)