The Homeless

tru

ebaybaby wrote: »

Newport Action For The Single Homeless Ltd


01633664045
49 George Street NEWPORT, Gwent, NP20 2AA

Thanks for that :T

Mr tru works in George St, we live in Glos. Everyone he works with gives him loads of stuff to give our local City Mission (run by our friend and we're dead proud of him ) because they don't know of any charities in their area. I'll let them know :T

antronella

anewman wrote: »

This Christmas, why not give them the gear they really want that got them homeless in the first place. Cannabis, cocaine, heroine, and not forgetting fags and booze - or just give them the money, they know where to get the gear.

Most people who are on the street homeless are homeless through choice, or their own action or inaction. For most people there is usually hostels and bed and breakfasts.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3658763.stm

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fraoch

Originally Posted by anewman
This Christmas, why not give them the gear they really want that got them homeless in the first place. Cannabis, cocaine, heroine, and not forgetting fags and booze - or just give them the money, they know where to get the gear.

Most people who are on the street homeless are homeless through choice, or their own action or inaction. For most people there is usually hostels and bed and breakfasts.

As someone who has worked with homeless men in one of Britians biggest hostels, I can contradict your statement with some of the facts I found.

A lot of the lads that I worked with were in care originally because of family problems. A large majority had been abused as children in one way or another. Most had multicomplex needs, a mixture of drug, alcohol and mental health issues combined and no family support. Some had come out of prison with a habit, due to the fact that herion was available and leaves the system quickly, when they didn't even have a habit when they went in. Chaotic lifestyles mean they forget to take medication, that is, if they are lucky enough to get a diagnosis because they are afraid to talk about their mental health issues. Self esteem is rock bottom, catch 22 situation, you cannot get work if you are homeless or in a hostel. On Christmas day some of these men are suicidal and need a lot of support. The majority are not where they are because of choice, although there are some that are.

Sorry for the ramble but it just makes me cross when people make assumptions I would just like to add these gentlemen also taught me a lot about myself so I owe them a bit thank you.

pigeonpie

suggestion for anewman: try walking a mile in their shoes this winter. However you probably just posted to get a reaction, which is infantile. Hope Santa forgets all your toys.
I gave a donation to Crisis at Christmas but they stop work before the New Year. At least they are there over Xmas which, with all the happiness hype, is maybe the worst time of year to be homeless, lonely and cold.

Savvy_Sue

the good news for pigeonpie is that Crisis works all year round: they USED to be Crisis at Christmas, and they do indeed open shelters over the Christmas period which close before New Year, but they don't stop work then ...

However the need for temporary shelters at Christmas is greater because many of the day centres close, or at least do not open on the bank holidays. It can also be a 'trigger' time of year: people think "I don't want to spend another year like this", and the people staffing the temporary shelters will know where to point people to get help in the longer term.

The shelters also usually offer more than warmth, food and safety: there may be entertainment, dental treatment, medical services, chiropody, hairdressing, manicures, massage, creative writing ...

In Bristol we have Caring at Christmas who, when they've got their breath back after Christmas, produce a Survival Guide each year. They also run Nightstop, a service which offers 16-25 year olds emergency accommodation in people's homes. Lovely people.

It is true that many homeless people have at some time or another made at least one very foolish choice which has not helped their chances of staying housed, but their reasons for making those choices are complex, and it is often more to do with making the best of a very bad situation rather than an entirely free choice.

Hands up anyone who can say they've never made a very foolish choice! I don't know if those of us who were lucky enough NOT to see it spiral out of control are in the minority, but we know we could be 'there' rather than 'here'.

anewman

redmel1621 wrote: »

And how exactly would they pay for these b&b's etc...

Not to mention the fact that if any of them turned up looking dirty and probably rather ill, they would be promptly told there is no room at the inn...

The Government pays. It is common practice

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=181429&command=displayContent&sourceNode=229968&home=yes&more_nodeId1=133174&contentPK=19210289

The truth is that most people out there homeless, give them any money they'll use it to buy drugs, give them something worth selling, they'll sell it get the money and buy drugs.

You people are so narrow minded and when you give to homeless people you help keep them homeless through their addiction. Whatever you do, never ever buy the big issue. Even the big issue acknowledges their vendors sell it on drugs, but they say it's up to them what they spend the money on.

catkins

anewman wrote: »

This Christmas, why not give them the gear they really want that got them homeless in the first place. Cannabis, cocaine, heroine, and not forgetting fags and booze - or just give them the money, they know where to get the gear.

Most people who are on the street homeless are homeless through choice, or their own action or inaction. For most people there is usually hostels and bed and breakfasts.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/3658763.stm

Homelessness is one of the things I get really angry about. In this day and age no-one should be sleeping on the streets. I often speak to outside sleepers in London and I can assure you they are not doing it through choice. Also a lot of them have dogs and apparently there is only 1 hostel in London that will accept dogs. That is awful. If I were ever unfortunate enough to find myself homeless I would want a dog for company and protection.

If I were to win the lottery the first thing I would do is help the homeless - set up more hostels and shelters. The amount of empty offices in London is disgusting - why can they not be used?

anewman

pigeonpie wrote: »

suggestion for anewman: try walking a mile in their shoes this winter. However you probably just posted to get a reaction, which is infantile. Hope Santa forgets all your toys.
I gave a donation to Crisis at Christmas but they stop work before the New Year. At least they are there over Xmas which, with all the happiness hype, is maybe the worst time of year to be homeless, lonely and cold.

I certainly didn't post for a reaction. It's a fact of life.

Show me evidence of one homeless person out on the streets who is NOT a drug addict

Donating to Crisis is a good thing, handing over money to homeless people on the street fuels addiction and the drug industry which consequently fuels terrorism.

anewman

catkins wrote: »

If I were to win the lottery the first thing I would do is help the homeless - set up more hostels and shelters. The amount of empty offices in London is disgusting - why can they not be used?

There *is* an abundance of money and resources as you say. When people can donate £1,095,223.50 to one little girl they never met or knew who may in fact be dead (being realistic given the amount of time and lack of firm evidence to the contrary) http://www.findmadeleine.com/ you have to wonder why they can't so readily do that for homeless people.

Homelessness isn't all that much of an issue anymore - people who need housing get it. The only people I see who are homeless go to the needle exchange/drug clinic near the city centre and hang around outside there drinking white lightening (although I think the Police probably move them on now) and the Big Issue office is conveniently located closeby. The Big Issue is a front for people who have somewhere to go home at night (none of them sleep rough) to get drug money which in turn funds terrorism.

Give to homeless charities who *hopefully* know what to do with the money, not the drugged up homeless people.

fraoch

Perhaps homeless hostels could do more life skills training, ie, budgeting, how to cook, where and when to shop cheaply, more support for people recovering from addiction when eventually rehoused, cleaning routines and the basics we all take for granted then maybe we have less of a chance of seeing the same people recycled through hostels year after year. If people could be rehoused somewhere other than hostels on their release from prision they would also stand a better chance as drugs would not be in their face on a day to day basis.

My husband is an homeless ex addict who has needed a lot of support to rehabilitate and sold the Big Issue to fund, not drugs but for clothes and things we take for granted every day.

So anewman I would acknowledge that what you say is partly correct, I would like to hear your suggestion for rehousing and rehabilitation, for example constructive criticism not destructive criticism and also what evidence and qualifications you have to substantiate your claims.