What is a typical household?

markin

RSTime said:

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I can account for our electricity usage as we have an electric oven, Mac Pro Server (~200W), 
1.98kW, uninteruptable power supply (rated at 1.98 KW) and two laptops that are plugged in all the time. The UPS can go and will be reviewing the server.

Thanks again for all the responses...

The UPS will only pull what it needs to supply to the things plugged into it, The rating is just the max draw that can be supplied before the fuse pops.

The may be around 10-30w to run it and keep the battery topped up.

RoseBerni

I live in a large 2 bed - 2 bath house 
3 adults 
someone is always at home 

These figures are pretty accurate as I’m prepay so no estimates and I’ve copied of my gas bill 

electric pre pay smart meter as of last week - can’t complain it’s working well so far 
E7 tarriff of 34.8p per kwh day rate  - 14.8per kwh at night 

I’m with EDF  

I have a hard shell hot tub that use a lot of electric it’s on 24/7 set at 38 Degrees and it’s used every day for at least 30 mins often 1hr 
it has a 3kw heater that kicks in if the temp in the tub drops below the temperature it’s set at and it filters twice a day for about 30 mins so pump is working 
it’s new so very well insulated 

My normal every day electric Is roughy just under  2700 kwh year or £21 a week 

Hot  tub adds a further 4000 kwh a year or £25, a week 
SC is about £4 a week 

my weekly amount at present in ££ is never more than £50 a week  or roughly £2400 a year as I top up weekly 
I keep £100 on the meter so just top up what’s been used each week  - same for my gas 
it’s rarely if ever  goes  above this amount if it does it’s by £2-3 in a week .  

It was slightly less before the April rise by about £5 a week I think 

Rarely use the tumble dryer as we have a dry outside area where the hot tub is so we can dry clothes there - maybe once a month if that 

rarely use the cooker as we have an ninja air fryer 


I have GCH for hot water and heating 
newish Worcester boiler - about 3 years old 

I’m with BG pre pay electric meter  

What I used from June 21 last year to June 22 this year was  
 £438.59  

7386.80 kWh

Heating was on from Oct - April and I never stinted on putting up higher if necessary and we would have multiple showers a day  

normally have it at 18 but I wouldn’t think twice to put it to 21 plus if I was cold - 8 radiators in the house and all are switched on 

At the moment I’m putting on £6 a week but almost £4 of that is the SC 
no heating at the moment but we have at least 3 showers a day but generally I would say 5 showers a day as we have to shower before using the hot tub 


I have this week just switched to EDF SVR as I no longer have storage heating so no longer need the E7 rate and didn’t even realise I was paying a higher rate 

I think the SVR is 29p per kWh with EDF  but I think it will go up to about 35p per kWh in Oct which would mean similar to my E7 rate and my yearly bill of £2400 

i don’t get where people are getting bills of £700 -£800 a month  for just electric 

Even my gas and electric together is less than £300 a month in the height of winter 

Miser1964

HeckingtonChris said:

 Are the contributors here particularly frugal with their electricity use, or are they the vocal minority?

Participating in a forum like this self-selects those who are motivated to reduce usage and some people are motivated to so what it takes to a save a tenner a year.

QrizB

HeckingtonChris said:

Are the contributors here particularly frugal with their electricity use, or are they the vocal minority?

The comtributors tend to be aware of their energy use and more likely to reduce it, but the Ofgem average of 2900 + 12000 isn't specific to MSErs.

The broader table is below, if you're interested. "Current" is up-to-2019, "revised" is 2020 and later:

HeckingtonChris said:

Gas = 21,600kWh & electricity = 7,400kWh.

You're somewhere between the 75th and 90th percentile for gas (closser to 90, I would imagine), and between 90th and 95th for electricity.

Marypw

1990s 4 Bed detached in Hertfordshire, with cavity wall insulation and c.  4 year-old boiler.  Retired so home most of the time and we cook a lot. At the top of a hill, so quite exposed to northerly winds.
Gas 14280 kWh and electricity 2944, but we have really cut down on electricity usage (minimise tumble dryer etc) and we installed 13 solar panels and 2 batteries in the spring.  Now several hundred in credit because of this.
On a cheap fix with Eon 7 until Oct 6th and I was switching to mega-expensive Eon 19, but will presumably get switched to SVR then instead. 

new_owner

QrizB said:

The broader table is below, if you're interested. "Current" is up-to-2019, "revised" is 2020 and later:

Blimey 

My electric is around 18000kWh per year and gas is about 8000kWh per year. Guess I don't fit this scale very well.

 I hope to be gas free in the next two years so I expect my consumption to go to around 25000kWh - But I am hoping to combine that with solar to reduce my summer costs next year.

ab1234567890abcdefgh

Qyburn said:

Deleted_User said:

Which has to be amongst the least useful government produced data tables ever.

It really bugs me the way they give a single figure combining gas and electricity.  It's as if they didn't realise that a lot of people don't have access to mains gas. Presenting it this way means we don't have the slightest idea how it will affect us.  As an unlikely example, supposing this reduction in the proposed "typical annual" bill came about solely by lowering the cap on gas.  Even if they just published "typical annual" figures for gas and electricity separately then at least we'd know a bit more.

I must say that even for the already published caps, both the one in place at the moment and the one originally proposed for October, it's not that easy to actually drill down and find unit rates.  And even when you do they're still "typical" because the actual capped rates differ between areas.

14% of households do not, that's isn't very many.

You do have the option of not living in the middle of nowhere.

Spoonie_Turtle

ab1234567890abcdefgh said:

Qyburn said:

Deleted_User said:

Which has to be amongst the least useful government produced data tables ever.

It really bugs me the way they give a single figure combining gas and electricity.  It's as if they didn't realise that a lot of people don't have access to mains gas. Presenting it this way means we don't have the slightest idea how it will affect us.  As an unlikely example, supposing this reduction in the proposed "typical annual" bill came about solely by lowering the cap on gas.  Even if they just published "typical annual" figures for gas and electricity separately then at least we'd know a bit more.

I must say that even for the already published caps, both the one in place at the moment and the one originally proposed for October, it's not that easy to actually drill down and find unit rates.  And even when you do they're still "typical" because the actual capped rates differ between areas.

14% of households do not, that's isn't very many.

You do have the option of not living in the middle of nowhere.

We're within 5 minutes' drive of two train stations on one of the main London commuter lines, and a motorway junction.  We may be rural and have zero amenities in the village but for car owners we are not 'in the middle of nowhere'.

wild666

What many people aren't doing that is raising their electric and gas usage is that they are leaving appliances in standby mode. If they turned every appliance, except the fridge, freezer and router, off at the wall socket when not in use they could reduce their monthly electric bill by up to 35%. The more appliance that are turned off at the wall socket the more the savings will be.
With gas reduce the boiler settings to 50 degrees for water and 55 degrees for heating and lower the thermostat to 18 degrees, it will take the radiators longer to reach the temperatures but it could cut 40% off the heating bill.
I've lowered the heating temperature on the boiler to 50 degrees but use a hot water bottle as well. Get TRV's on radiators and lower the temperatures to 1 on the valve in rooms that are not used but higher in the room the person is in, full in the living room, and 3 in the kitchen.

Alnat1

@wild666 on many TRVs number 3 is equal to about 20C, 2 is 15C, 1 is 10C and * is 5-7C. Setting the kitchen to 3 won't really achieve any energy saving if main thermostat is at 18C.