What is a typical household?

grandadgolfer

OP 2 people using 26000 kwh of gas & 5800 of electric takes some doing are you both walking around in shorts and t shirts with all appliances turned on

RobM99

26000/365 = 71kWh a day!

MWT

grandadgolfer said:

OP 2 people using 26000 kwh of gas & 5800 of electric takes some doing are you both walking around in shorts and t shirts with all appliances turned on

Higher electricity use in that range is probably more common now with people working from home, potentially on multiple computers, and making use of other equipment more frequently due to not being out of the house for at least 8 hours a day.

Similarly 26000kWh of gas doesn't require anything reckless, it just needs poor insulation and again being in the house pretty much 24/7... although the heat produced by the computers can help with this...

Lower numbers on both electricity and gas is easier to achieve if nobody is home for a 1/3 of the day...

RoseBerni

RobM99 said:

"My normal every day electric Is roughly just under  2700 kwh year or £21 a week"

Yes - at last - someone that speaks the language we all understand - pounds and pence!
I don't care if I use 3,500 kilojoules per cubic metre of 50% humidity air @ 20°C at 758mm Hg barometric pressure.

All I want to know - what's it going to cost?!

😂glad I was able to help 
Probably like a fair amount of people I didn’t    really paid attention to the amount of electricity I was using in KWH

Mainly because  I’ve always kept £100 on both my electric and gas meters and top them up each week same day 

So I know exactly what I use in £££ 
But I can see my bills on my online account and see what I’ve used in KWH per year  

fergie_

theoretica said:

I just looked it up and find it interesting that the proportion of households that are single person range between about 1/4 in London to 1/3 in Scotland.  Of course if 2/3 of *households* have 2 or more people living there, then at least 4/5ths of *people* will live in a household with 2 or more people - probably considerably more than 4/5ths as many households have more than 2 people.

What this means to me is that if energy use has some correlation with household size, then single person households will bring the median (and mean) energy use *by household* down - but mean that this median won't necessarily match personal observations of energy use as more people will speak for each multi-person household.

For what it is worth, as a single person household I used about 1100kW electricity and 5000kW gas in the last 12 months. 

I think there is more a heating correlation with the size / age / condition of house and the energy used rather than the number of people in it. Unless you shut down most of the building, a larger property has more space to heat and will usually have a larger boiler with more rads etc.

Whereas for electricity, it very much depends on the size and lifestyle of the household (unless you leave the lights on everywhere in a mansion etc). For example a family of 4 could easily have 4 TVs or computers on at once, regardless of the property size. Where life style comes into it is that there could be only 1 TV and they all cook and eat together etc.

The other game changer of course is home working - 4 homeworking adults in a 2 bed modern flat are going to use a lot more electric than 2 book loving pensioners living in a 5 bedroom house.

DeeQS

We recently moved, but our old house was a 2k sq ft 1820 built listed building. Original single glazed windows (with modern draft proofing), no wall insulation. Only the loft (which was only part of the roof) had any insulation.

We used 4500kwh electric (offset by a small 1.5kw solar installation on a shed), and 30,000kwh gas. The heating was only ever on Nov-March and set at 17/18. The house held no heat at all…. Wasn’t unusual to be watching TV in a woolly hat. The heating went off at 10pm, and the north facing main bedroom could easily be 12c by the morning. Brrrr 🥶

DeeQS

New house… EPC B. We haven’t been here a full year yet to tell but I estimate.

3200kwh Electric - I’m trying to get solar on the roof but every installer is so busy it’s a 6+month wait.
5000 kWh Gas

RobM99

RoseBerni said:

RobM99 said:

"My normal every day electric Is roughly just under  2700 kwh year or £21 a week"

Yes - at last - someone that speaks the language we all understand - pounds and pence!
I don't care if I use 3,500 kilojoules per cubic metre of 50% humidity air @ 20°C at 758mm Hg barometric pressure.

All I want to know - what's it going to cost?!

😂  Glad I was able to help. Probably like a fair amount of people I didn’t really pay attention to the amount of electricity I was using in kWh.

Mainly because  I’ve always kept £100 on both my electric and gas meters and top them up each week same day.

So I know exactly what I use in £££ 
But I can see my bills on my online account and see what I’ve used in KWH per year  

Thanks. I bet some people take a calculator to work out how many Kg/month of pasta they consume.

Maybe my attitude is wrong "Can I afford it? Does it look good value for money?" OK, buy. I once paid £150 for a meal out for two, it was just the best. Was it VFM to me? Yes, I went twice more! I'd rather do that than pay £50 and think - well, it was OK I suppose.

RoseBerni

RobM99 said:

RoseBerni said:

RobM99 said:

"My normal every day electric Is roughly just under  2700 kwh year or £21 a week"

Yes - at last - someone that speaks the language we all understand - pounds and pence!
I don't care if I use 3,500 kilojoules per cubic metre of 50% humidity air @ 20°C at 758mm Hg barometric pressure.

All I want to know - what's it going to cost?!

😂  Glad I was able to help. Probably like a fair amount of people I didn’t really pay attention to the amount of electricity I was using in kWh.

Mainly because  I’ve always kept £100 on both my electric and gas meters and top them up each week same day.

So I know exactly what I use in £££ 
But I can see my bills on my online account and see what I’ve used in KWH per year  

Thanks. I bet some people take a calculator to work out how many Kg/month of pasta they consume.

Maybe my attitude is wrong "Can I afford it? Does it look good value for money?" OK, buy. I once paid £150 for a meal out for two, it was just the best. Was it VFM to me? Yes, I went twice more! I'd rather do that than pay £50 and think - well, it was OK I suppose.

Your attitude is fine
mine is similar when I bought my hot tub thf only questions I wanted to know is
can I afford it - yes
whats it going to cost me to run as an extra cost of electric in £££ 
Is  if going to kill me 😂

It was easy to work out because I already knew what my electric cost me in ££ as I’m on a key meter so I just deducted that amount if what I call my every day electric  from the higher amount of electric in £££ and KWH that the tub was costing me 

using day 20kwh   means nothing to me but spending  £20 a week I understand what I’ve spent 

Most people couldn’t tell what 20kwh  electric will cost them 
but if you said it will cost them £7 they would understand 


Because I have a hot tub I have a bit more interest in how much extra electric I am using and what is the cost of that extra electricity 

That’s why I was able to break down in £££ pretty much exactly how much what I call “my every day electric” cost and how much my hot tub cost in electric on a daily and weekly basis 

MWT

DeeQS said:

I’m trying to get solar on the roof but every installer is so busy it’s a 6+month wait.

Just get someone booked in...

Six months from now is when you will start to generate decent amounts of energy, you are not missing a lot by not having it much sooner.

... you will miss a lot if you don't get it installed in time for spring next year...