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custardy said:hubb said:£4 odd on the label that was stuck on, but the postman didn't ask for it. I think I will stick with Evri in the future. They gave got much more reliable these days.
Are you sure you got your sizing correct? Large letter postage on small parcel is the usual suspect.
With the increase in mechanisation, more items are identified.
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martindow said:custardy said:hubb said:£4 odd on the label that was stuck on, but the postman didn't ask for it. I think I will stick with Evri in the future. They gave got much more reliable these days.
Are you sure you got your sizing correct? Large letter postage on small parcel is the usual suspect.
With the increase in mechanisation, more items are identified.0 -
Who knows what size millions of letter boxes are but I bet many are over RM,s 2.5cm or 25mm .
The thing is RM charges you small parcel size if your over LL 2.5cm yet Evri says LL 3cm thick is good to go ?
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TOP_CAT said:Who knows what size millions of letter boxes are but I bet many are over RM,s 2.5cm or 25mm .
The thing is RM charges you small parcel size if your over LL 2.5cm yet Evri says LL 3cm thick is good to go ?
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Evri use it to make it comparable to RM.
It has no bearing on the delivery element. Price in proportion (when siz & weight are part of pricing) were brought in to reflect handling costs.
Some extreme examples were charity letters with pens that had to be hand sorted for the price of a stamp, or those huge helium balloons in boxes that took up and entire york trolley but were classed as small parcels.
standard letters can be machine sorted. So for example Edinburgh mail centre can sort/sequence over 1 million letters in a 7 hour night shift run through the CSS machines.
These go direct to delivery offices sequenced for the duty.
The A4 'flat' sorting machine cannot sequence and has throughputs at less than 1/4 of the CSS.
The sizes are relative to sort. Evri has no letters to sort. So their set up is very different from RM.
Its always weird people don't grasp the difference and clump RM in with couriers.
One of the reasons RM are shredding to service to get down to that very level1 -
Im not complaining about RM as I use them ...just pointing out that RM vs Evri has different large letter thickness sizing although it does seem to have varied at times with Hermes ?
Rm is 25mm vs Evri 30mm thick and I doubt its a post box slot size issue .
Probably down to RM electronic machine sorting but I wouldnt know much about that .
So if you trust Evri and your large letter is boarderline at 25mm thick you the sender has the option of using Evri up to 30mm thick large letter .
Which is what happened to me .
Most people would probably just pay more for small parcel but I was more annoyed I had packed and sized it wrong so thought in this instance I will use Hermes instead .
Havent used them since though .0 -
TOP_CAT said:Im not complaining about RM as I use them ...just pointing out that RM vs Evri has different large letter thickness sizing although it does seem to have varied at times with Hermes ?
Rm is 25mm vs Evri 30mm thick and I doubt its a post box slot size issue .
Probably down to RM electronic machine sorting but I wouldnt know much about that .
So if you trust Evri and your large letter is boarderline at 25mm thick you the sender has the option of using Evri up to 30mm thick large letter .
Which is what happened to me .
Most people would probably just pay more for small parcel but I was more annoyed I had packed and sized it wrong so thought in this instance I will use Hermes instead .
Havent used them since though .
Evri call it LL to make it comparable to RM. They can call it anything they like.
They also tweak their sizes/prices to undercut RM where they can.
Its a balance though as you need to manage undercutting with capacity. Imagine undercutting RM and everyone switching to Evri. They would collapse under the volumes. so like RM, they try and find that sweet spot of revenue/workload
I dont know why you keep talking about postbox sizes? The size is the size.
People seem to have got used to leeway as so many LLs were manually sorted. Now with mechanisation you have machines sorting/checking.0
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