Vile smell from next door

kammyk

turbobob wrote: »

No expert but I believe charcoal filters and ozone generators are used to disguise the smell of larger operations.

Maybe your right But I think the charcoal filters absorb the smells rather than disguise them, otherwise instead of one weird smell there would be another.

reformedEffortMaker_2

withabix wrote: »

Errr sorry, you will find that smoking illegal drugs remains illegal wherever you smoke them.
Cannabis is still a Class C drug.
I would report him to your local police and ask them to have a quiet word...

Thank god someone pointed this out!...

Alan_M wrote: »

The Police are under instructions (from the home secretary) to ignore/tolerate personal use within the confines of ones own home. They are interested in dealers, not recreational users.

The home office have never instructed law enforcer to ‘ignore’ cannabis usage, tolerate to an extent maybe, but who defines personal use?...besides, the ‘instructions’ you refer to have quite a long list of clauses attached, i.e. are there any children at the address/schools in close proximity/does the neighbour has previous convictions for drug use etc

Alan_M wrote: »

It's common practice now for people found with small amounts in public to not even be cautioned

Really?....so when cannabis is seized from someone in the street how is it dealt with?. If you can get cautioned before being issued with a ticket for talking on a mobile phone whilst driving, why cant you be cautioned before being given a warning for being found in possession of an illegal drug? If you are not cautioned and the person ‘found with a small amount’ turns around and says “oh yeah, I was going to split this into three bits and sell it’….where does a Police Officer stand legally with trying to arrest for supply if you have not cautioned??!!

Alan_M wrote: »

And no, I don't or never have used the stuff, but I have two friends who are policemen, so the information is accurate.

Different forces do things differently.

I am not a 'puritan' at all, I just dont like the way cannabis is seen as a 'lesser evil' as if its just for students and tree huggers, I am sure most people would change their minds if neighbour got behind the wheel of a car and knocked someone over whilst 'relaxing'...

If it was my neighbour, I would either just have a word or tell one of those community officers, not really worth taking a real copper off the streets for, and will also be dealt with a bit more ‘softly’.

carpetbelly

reformedEffortMaker wrote: »

The home office have never instructed law enforcer to ‘ignore’ cannabis usage, tolerate to an extent maybe, but who defines personal use?...besides, the ‘instructions’ you refer to have quite a long list of clauses attached, i.e. are there any children at the address/schools in close proximity/does the neighbour has previous convictions for drug use etc

True, specific guidelines for ignoring useage has never been issued (plenty of friends who are also old bill here) but it is implied a lot. Yes, there are generally clauses attached but they're normally common sense. I mean, would you smoke cigarettes around children? No, then smoking anything else should be treated in the same way. And yes, smoking around a school, people who do that should be cautioned at least. I mean, if you don't have the sense to realise what you're doing is still illegal and doing it in front of kids or near a school isn't right. If you wish to do it in your own home, away from minors, personally I see no harm.

reformedEffortMaker wrote: »

Really?....so when cannabis is seized from someone in the street how is it dealt with?. If you can get cautioned before being issued with a ticket for talking on a mobile phone whilst driving, why cant you be cautioned before being given a warning for being found in possession of an illegal drug? If you are not cautioned and the person ‘found with a small amount’ turns around and says “oh yeah, I was going to split this into three bits and sell it’….where does a Police Officer stand legally with trying to arrest for supply if you have not cautioned??!!

Driving with a mobile is deadly! That can kill people and does. Smoking a joint, well, have you seen stoners fight? No. The worst they get is the munchies. You're going to want to waste police time to caution people for basically wanting to buy a KFC/McDonalds (jovial way of looking at it but hey, I'm still hungover and tbh alcohol is a far worse drug than canabis).
Saying that, if a person is found with small amounts all split up I do believe they deal with those people as that's dealing. Dealing is taken very seriously.

reformedEffortMaker wrote: »

Different forces do things differently.

Yes they do.

reformedEffortMaker wrote: »

I am not a 'puritan' at all, I just dont like the way cannabis is seen as a 'lesser evil' as if its just for students and tree huggers, I am sure most people would change their minds if neighbour got behind the wheel of a car and knocked someone over whilst 'relaxing'...

I'm afraid to tell you, but it is a lesser evil. Go look at some scientific studies to see the how bad some drugs are for you. Two of the worst ones out there are alcohol and tobacco. They both destroy lives far worse than cannabis. These aren't banned purely for the tax revenue they bring in. Also, imagine the uprising if there was an alcohol prohibition? There would be riots.

I don't also believe most people would change their mind if someone went for a drive whilst 'relaxing'. I mean, people still drink and drive and no one blames the alcohol. If they person is stupid enough to do that you cannot blame the drug for that, it's the person just being obtuse. I mean, I had an uncle who was a heroin addict in his youth. He'd been clean for 10yrs. He was a professional triathelete to with a young family. He got hit by a car when he was out cycling by a driver who was reaching for a chocolate bar in the passenger footwell. It doesn't mean chocolate should be banned. Lack of concentration in cars kills people, that can be caused by anything.

reformedEffortMaker wrote: »

If it was my neighbour, I would either just have a word or tell one of those community officers, not really worth taking a real copper off the streets for, and will also be dealt with a bit more ‘softly’.

I agree with the having a word, not with the officers though. Not unless the neighbour was so selfish about his views on his smoking.

roswell

carpetbelly wrote: »

Driving with a mobile is deadly! That can kill people and does. Smoking a joint, well, have you seen stoners fight? No. The worst they get is the munchies. You're going to want to waste police time to caution people for basically wanting to buy a KFC/McDonalds (jovial way of looking at it but hey, I'm still hungover and tbh alcohol is a far worse drug than canabis).
Saying that, if a person is found with small amounts all split up I do believe they deal with those people as that's dealing. Dealing is taken very seriously.

id consider driving stonned to be pretty deadly about the same as mobile phone use / drunk driving.

But that isnt the topic.

Fact is its illegal, if he is doing something illegal you either turn a blind eye or call the police.

dont bother confrunting him because there is nothing worse than making an enemy of your neighbour and its not worth risking causing a feud.

carpetbelly

roswell wrote: »

id consider driving stonned to be pretty deadly about the same as mobile phone use / drunk driving.

I never said it wasn't. The original comment likened driving with a mobile to just smoking a joint. No mention of driving with a joint or after smoking which is as bad as all of the above. Driving while not concentrating is a killer. Just smoking a joint is not.

roswell wrote: »

But that isnt the topic.

True but you could always read the comments and original statements correctly first to ensure you didn't get hold of the wrong end of the stick.

roswell wrote: »

Fact is its illegal, if he is doing something illegal you either turn a blind eye or call the police.

Statements like this make me cringe and show a total lack of empathy. One of the regular smokers I know has MS. He looks like a total stoner hippy so anyone if they saw him smoke would think it's for recreational use but you do not know until you speak to people.
Just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong. I mean, officially it is still illegal to eat a mince pie on xmas day. I'll make a rather broad assumption you might have, should we call the police? Granted the debate on why you should make a plant illegal (very strange concept, banning mother nature) is another debate entirly.

roswell wrote: »

dont bother confrunting him because there is nothing worse than making an enemy of your neighbour and its not worth risking causing a feud.

And by confronting the neighbour, said neighbour might listen to the concerns and smoke somewhere else and these people could end up being good friends.

wherediditallgo

I honestly believe that you should always approach a neighbour first, unless you have actual experience of a neighbour being verbally or physically aggressive (rather than local rumour) & therefore good reason not to approach them. Sometimes people will react in different ways to something dependent on how they're approached in the first place. If you go in all guns blazing, you're very likely to cheese them off especially if you make accusations or haven't got your facts straight. The same is very likely to happen if you call in an authority figure when you could just as easily have had a quick word with the neighbour, & have no good reason to think you couldn't have resolved things that way. No-one likes authorities unnecessarily involved in how they live their lives, whether the act at issue is illegal or not.

One of my neighbours is taking a very very long time refurbishing a house - he regularly burned things in the garden, & usually managed to be starting another burning session within a few minutes of me putting a load of washing out, resulting in me having to bring it all in & wash it again to remove the smell, then hang it inside to dry. I bet there's a local bye-law about what can be burned, when & where. But while other neighbours moaned behind his back & wanted to organise petitions about it (he's been at it over six months so far, with no sign of an end to it), I just popped round & explained the problem to him. He hadn't realised until I said something that it was an issue, but now he's agreed to do it only once a week & on a mutually-agreed day that doesn't affect me at all. It may well still be an issue for other neighbours, but that's their battle to fight - I won't be complaining about the man, because any issue I had with him has been resolved amicably.

Approach your neighbours with the assumption that they don't realise they're causing you a problem, & will be willing to do something about it if possible. In other words, the way you'd expect someone to deal with any issues they had with you. You're still going to have them as neighbours until one of you moves, so there's no point making things uncomfortable for either of you if it can be avoided.

patchwork_cat

I am stunned by how much knowledge there is on this thread about growing pot. I thought that growing it was not commonplace am obviously very naive. Also would have thought that 1 chap smoking the odd joint would get away with a couple of plants on his windowsill.