How much longer will this bear market go on for?

InvesterJones

Type_45 said:

Markets sinking like a stone...  Tough to take after recent gains.

I'm not sure investing is for you. The S&P 500 closed down 2.56%. This is hardly sinking like a stone, nor was its previous rise to ~3900 anything like a gain to be excited about. If you're finding these kinds of movements tough to take then for your own health I'd stop looking at the markets, and certainly do not invest in volatile assets like crypto, gold or individual stocks.

Type_45

The glory days are over for Big Tech.  Jim Cramer crying on TV because his advice has cost people who listen to his show money.

DoublePolaroid

I for one am certain that humanity is going to technologically stagnate and no further advances will be made, ever. 

hallmark

I think it's surprising that IR rises get all the attention then QT gets barely a nod at the end.  IMO Low IRs are a problem but massive QE a far far bigger problem.  Likewise, rising IRs might address some issues but it's QT that would make a far bigger difference, if it starts to happen in any meaningful way.  The Fed at least has begun QT in earnest now and my guess is the effect will be substantial if they're able to stick with the program.

Thumbs_Up

DoublePolaroid said:

I for one am certain that humanity is going to technologically stagnate and no further advances will be made, ever. 

In the name of humanity and the animal kingdom, planet earth needs the worlds population to stagnate..

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

Type_45

DoublePolaroid said:

I for one am certain that humanity is going to technologically stagnate and no further advances will be made, ever. 

I for one am certain that humanity's future technological advancements are not dependent on Facebook, Amazon, Alphabet and Microsoft.

Type_45

Millyonare said:

aroominyork said:

Terry Smith: 

Millyonare said:

sevenhills said:

Millyonare said:

Right now, the IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing G7 economy in 2022, with the 2nd lowest debt. That is good news.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Yes, that is what our government say too. If you read the link, it explains why it happened. Except that it was 2021, we are in 2022 now, so the figures are not out yet.
It was because our economy shrank the most in 2020.

Nice try 😉

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fey_qgZXoAIGxCO?format=jpg

Except, as we have been told manifold times, we are about heading to the bottom of that graph.

Except, as posted manifold times, the UK is prone to forward-looking misery, doom and hysteria. We as a nation are always desperate to talk down the future economy. We love nothing more than to forecast recessions, housing falls, unemployment, and they often don't happen. We revel in misery and self-loathing. Look at the hysteria before Brexit, when the economy was going to crash. It didn't. Look at the hysteria before Covid, when the housing market was going to crash. It didn't. And on and on. Rinse and repeat.

The IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing economy in the entire global G7. The 2nd lowest debt in the G7. Unemployment is as close to full as it will ever get. Everyone who wants one has a job. Wages are rising. House prices are rising.

The UK is in much better shape than the hysterical headlines that few read beyond.

Meanwhile, in reality:

Millyonare

Type_45 said:

Millyonare said:

aroominyork said:

Terry Smith: 

Millyonare said:

sevenhills said:

Millyonare said:

Right now, the IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing G7 economy in 2022, with the 2nd lowest debt. That is good news.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Yes, that is what our government say too. If you read the link, it explains why it happened. Except that it was 2021, we are in 2022 now, so the figures are not out yet.
It was because our economy shrank the most in 2020.

Nice try 😉

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fey_qgZXoAIGxCO?format=jpg

Except, as we have been told manifold times, we are about heading to the bottom of that graph.

Except, as posted manifold times, the UK is prone to forward-looking misery, doom and hysteria. We as a nation are always desperate to talk down the future economy. We love nothing more than to forecast recessions, housing falls, unemployment, and they often don't happen. We revel in misery and self-loathing. Look at the hysteria before Brexit, when the economy was going to crash. It didn't. Look at the hysteria before Covid, when the housing market was going to crash. It didn't. And on and on. Rinse and repeat.

The IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing economy in the entire global G7. The 2nd lowest debt in the G7. Unemployment is as close to full as it will ever get. Everyone who wants one has a job. Wages are rising. House prices are rising.

The UK is in much better shape than the hysterical headlines that few read beyond.

Meanwhile, in reality:

Good old Bank against England (BaE). They never miss a chance to talk down the future UK economy and project misery and defeatism onto the international stage.

Both Natwest and Metro retail banks have said in recent days that there is zero sign of added UK customer distress. These doom-loop forecasts from the BaE again look way out of whack.

Bobziz

Millyonare said:

Type_45 said:

Millyonare said:

aroominyork said:

Terry Smith: 

Millyonare said:

sevenhills said:

Millyonare said:

Right now, the IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing G7 economy in 2022, with the 2nd lowest debt. That is good news.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Yes, that is what our government say too. If you read the link, it explains why it happened. Except that it was 2021, we are in 2022 now, so the figures are not out yet.
It was because our economy shrank the most in 2020.

Nice try 😉

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fey_qgZXoAIGxCO?format=jpg

Except, as we have been told manifold times, we are about heading to the bottom of that graph.

Except, as posted manifold times, the UK is prone to forward-looking misery, doom and hysteria. We as a nation are always desperate to talk down the future economy. We love nothing more than to forecast recessions, housing falls, unemployment, and they often don't happen. We revel in misery and self-loathing. Look at the hysteria before Brexit, when the economy was going to crash. It didn't. Look at the hysteria before Covid, when the housing market was going to crash. It didn't. And on and on. Rinse and repeat.

The IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing economy in the entire global G7. The 2nd lowest debt in the G7. Unemployment is as close to full as it will ever get. Everyone who wants one has a job. Wages are rising. House prices are rising.

The UK is in much better shape than the hysterical headlines that few read beyond.

Meanwhile, in reality:

Good old Bank against England (BaE). They never miss a chance to talk down the future UK economy and project misery and defeatism onto the international stage.

Both Natwest and Metro retail banks have said in recent days that there is zero sign of added UK customer distress. These doom-loop forecasts from the BaE again look way out of whack.

This NatWest ? https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/natwest-reports-flat-profit-economic-outlook-dims-2022-10-28/

Millyonare

Bobziz said:

Millyonare said:

Type_45 said:

Millyonare said:

aroominyork said:

Terry Smith: 

Millyonare said:

sevenhills said:

Millyonare said:

Right now, the IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing G7 economy in 2022, with the 2nd lowest debt. That is good news.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/

Yes, that is what our government say too. If you read the link, it explains why it happened. Except that it was 2021, we are in 2022 now, so the figures are not out yet.
It was because our economy shrank the most in 2020.

Nice try 😉

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fey_qgZXoAIGxCO?format=jpg

Except, as we have been told manifold times, we are about heading to the bottom of that graph.

Except, as posted manifold times, the UK is prone to forward-looking misery, doom and hysteria. We as a nation are always desperate to talk down the future economy. We love nothing more than to forecast recessions, housing falls, unemployment, and they often don't happen. We revel in misery and self-loathing. Look at the hysteria before Brexit, when the economy was going to crash. It didn't. Look at the hysteria before Covid, when the housing market was going to crash. It didn't. And on and on. Rinse and repeat.

The IMF says the UK is the fastest-growing economy in the entire global G7. The 2nd lowest debt in the G7. Unemployment is as close to full as it will ever get. Everyone who wants one has a job. Wages are rising. House prices are rising.

The UK is in much better shape than the hysterical headlines that few read beyond.

Meanwhile, in reality:

Good old Bank against England (BaE). They never miss a chance to talk down the future UK economy and project misery and defeatism onto the international stage.

Both Natwest and Metro retail banks have said in recent days that there is zero sign of added UK customer distress. These doom-loop forecasts from the BaE again look way out of whack.

This NatWest ? https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/natwest-reports-flat-profit-economic-outlook-dims-2022-10-28/

This Natwest.

https://www.cityam.com/natwest-no-signs-of-heightened-financial-distress-from-customers-yet/?amp=1