How much longer will this bear market go on for?

Type_45

2008 was a banking crisis sparked by Lehman.

2022 is a credit crisis sparked by the UK.

Type_45

billy2shots said:

Alistair31 said:

Wild reversal

The S&P is normally an index that is followed closely due to the level of holding in a lot of ETFs and funds. 

I think 3500 was a huge trigger point for a lot of money being invested there and momentum just carried on building and spreading. 

3500 was my intended investment figure but by the time I moved some cash around I had missed the boat. 

It will be interesting to see if we break that figure again this year or indeed this bear market. 

2022 bottom?

Good news:  the boat is back again!

Prism

Type_45 said:

billy2shots said:

Type_45 said:

Nebulous2 said:

VWRP still higher than I paid for it in mid-June. 

Today will hinge on US inflation figures....... 

Any update on this, please? 

Yes the 'market' is soaring at the time of writing. 

3% swing (-1% to +2%) in half an hour this afternoon for the S&P500

Any update on this, please?

Sure, its done pretty well today

Vanguard Funds plc Share Price (VUSA) S&P 500 UCITS ETF USD(GBP) | VUSA (hl.co.uk)

Steve182

billy2shots said:

Alistair31 said:

Wild reversal

The S&P is normally an index that is followed closely due to the level of holding in a lot of ETFs and funds. 

I think 3500 was a huge trigger point for a lot of money being invested there and momentum just carried on building and spreading. 

3500 was my intended investment figure but by the time I moved some cash around I had missed the boat. 

It will be interesting to see if we break that figure again this year or indeed this bear market. 

2022 bottom?

I would not be surprised if we plunge below 3500 again

S & P valuations are still high based on historic P/E which is 15 to 16.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio

hallmark

Surprisingly quiet day for bonds.

sevenhills

LHW99 said:

BBC says sacked, but was he pushed  - or did he jump?

He was not taken on, failed his probationary period!

coastline

Steve182 said:

billy2shots said:

Alistair31 said:

Wild reversal

The S&P is normally an index that is followed closely due to the level of holding in a lot of ETFs and funds. 

I think 3500 was a huge trigger point for a lot of money being invested there and momentum just carried on building and spreading. 

3500 was my intended investment figure but by the time I moved some cash around I had missed the boat. 

It will be interesting to see if we break that figure again this year or indeed this bear market. 

2022 bottom?

I would not be surprised if we plunge below 3500 again

S & P valuations are still high based on historic P/E which is 15 to 16.

https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio

Interesting chart without those FAAMG stocks SP 500 on a forward P/E of 12 . Basically plenty stocks are reasonably priced just like the old FTSE100 .

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Peaks and troughs in bull and bear markets. It would have to turn into a disaster to get to single figure P/E valuations. There's hope yet if inflation has peaked and is on the way down.

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billy2shots

Type_45 said:

billy2shots said:

Alistair31 said:

Wild reversal

The S&P is normally an index that is followed closely due to the level of holding in a lot of ETFs and funds. 

I think 3500 was a huge trigger point for a lot of money being invested there and momentum just carried on building and spreading. 

3500 was my intended investment figure but by the time I moved some cash around I had missed the boat. 

It will be interesting to see if we break that figure again this year or indeed this bear market. 

2022 bottom?

Good news:  the boat is back again!

Still 100 points away (at time of writing). 

Type_45

Apparently the Fed has bailed out CREDIT SUISSE!

Type_45

Urgent warnings ignored and regulators asleep at the wheel: Growing fears that Gordon Brown's pensions timebomb may finally be about to explode

- At the last count, Universities Superannuation Scheme (USS) had £82 billion

- One of Gordon brown's first big changes was to axe a dividends pension perk

- The cost to British pension funds was around £100 billion over the decade 

- An economist this week said it was known this would screw pension funds

- But they said it would take 20 years to be noticed and 'hey presto, it happened'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11317867/Growing-fears-Gordon-Browns-pensions-timebomb-finally-explode.html