New PC Required?

TUVOK

k_man said:

TUVOK said:

Thanks for all replies, especially re recommendations for a new Pc.
I won't be going down the road of re-programming/adding/updating my existing Pc due to lack of knowledge of internals(although on my first Pc many years ago I added parts to it), lack of time and inclination.
I'll settle for a new budget PC
I did want Windows office to be part of the package and was sorry to see that it was not included.
Is it best to look for a new Pc which includes  Windows office, buy i the program myself or I believe you can have the package on your new Pc for a annual charge.
Can any one help with this query re Windows office?

Just in case my earlier post was missed, do you get these symptoms without the extra memory sticks and drives connected?

If one of the drives/sticks is causing it, then it is possible the same will occur on a new PC.

Unless you want a new PC anyway that is 😉

Sorry, I did read it and tried with/without, no real difference.
The Pc seems to 'freeze' at times and I just have to wait for it to respond, annoying!

prowla

That should still be a viable PC, but sorting out the issues could need some techy knowhow.

The memory can go to 32 GB (workstation-grade ECC memory), which is more than most current PCs have.

grumpycrab

Give the OP a break guys, he's said he doesn't want to update his existing Pc .

getmore4less

Any reason you need office?  (like compatibility with work)

I find open office does everything I need for personal stuff

Might be worth giving one of the free ones a go before splashing out on office licence.

if you have office on your current machine can you use that licence?

Given your preference not to mess about inside then there is no need for a big case that has space for extra drives and cards as you won't be doing that.


One thing that has change over the last few year is storage in the M.2 format has got a lot cheaper and takes up hardly any room the cards are tiny compared to the 3.5" drives that were more common in desktops.

I would add that to your wish list   M.2 NVMe SSD  

The modern CPU with integrated graphics will support multiple monitors and good enough for home/office use.

TUVOK

I use Apache open office on my existing Pc, ok,  but when working always had Office. 
So yes, your advice on that taken on board as re your advice on M2.

TUVOK

Following on from the helpful advice I've received on this posting, I visited Curry's yesterday.
I was shown the range of 'All in one' Pc's for sale.
First impressions, solves a lot of problems re cables etc, nice and tidy, prices on the HP one I looked at £580- ish.

I've done some research and some drawbacks came up? difficult due to thinness of the PC housing if a problem, value for money came up re cost of 'All in one' compared to buying Monitor and PC separately.
I would welcome opinions especially if any member has this 'all in one' Pc themselves, happy with it?

getmore4less

Problem is you end up throwing everything out if something goes wrong.

The small 1ltr micro mini/micro that can be fitted to the back of a monitor solve that problem.

I went for the Dell solution of a Dell 7070 ultra pc box fits in the stand.
(Found one for £150)

debitcardmayhem

getmore4less said:

Problem is you end up throwing everything out if something goes wrong.

The small 1ltr micro mini/micro that can be fitted to the back of a monitor solve that problem.

I went for the Dell solution of a Dell 7070 ultra pc box fits in the stand.
(Found one for £150)

Indeed a mini pc with vesa mounts are also ideal if you have a monitor already or in my case an “old” tv which I bought a mini pc to make it more smart, and I also use it to dual boot Windows and Fedora(there are other linuxes available)

GDB2222

TUVOK said:

Following on from the helpful advice I've received on this posting, I visited Curry's yesterday.
I was shown the range of 'All in one' Pc's for sale.
First impressions, solves a lot of problems re cables etc, nice and tidy, prices on the HP one I looked at £580- ish.

I've done some research and some drawbacks came up? difficult due to thinness of the PC housing if a problem, value for money came up re cost of 'All in one' compared to buying Monitor and PC separately.
I would welcome opinions especially if any member has this 'all in one' Pc themselves, happy with it?

An all in one has all of the problems of a laptop, without the portability. For example, a minor component failure may well mean throwing the whole thing away. A tower can usually be fixed. The tiny micro PCs are often v expensive to fix. If you have the space for a tower, it's a very good option. 

The only connection you save is the one from the PC to the monitor. You still have to connect the power cable, as well as the keyboard and mouse. 

Chief advantage of an AIO is that it looks stylish. 

TUVOK

GDB2222 said:

TUVOK said:

Following on from the helpful advice I've received on this posting, I visited Curry's yesterday.
I was shown the range of 'All in one' Pc's for sale.
First impressions, solves a lot of problems re cables etc, nice and tidy, prices on the HP one I looked at £580- ish.

I've done some research and some drawbacks came up? difficult due to thinness of the PC housing if a problem, value for money came up re cost of 'All in one' compared to buying Monitor and PC separately.
I would welcome opinions especially if any member has this 'all in one' Pc themselves, happy with it?

An all in one has all of the problems of a laptop, without the portability. For example, a minor component failure may well mean throwing the whole thing away. A tower can usually be fixed. The tiny micro PCs are often v expensive to fix. If you have the space for a tower, it's a very good option. 

The only connection you save is the one from the PC to the monitor. You still have to connect the power cable, as well as the keyboard and mouse. 

Chief advantage of an AIO is that it looks stylish. 

Thanks for your input, your PC knowledge comment has backed up my thinking.
I'll look at new towers and possibly a new larger monitor.
The 'All in one' look great, but there is a lot of gubbings pushed into a very narrow space!