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Possible theft case -something a bit different...

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  • Fruitcake
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    edited 2 July 2022 at 9:24AM
    Maybe due to the amount involved, the landowner, who would be due any parking tariff, has decided they don't want to wait for a PPC to try and  collect the alleged money due, especially if it is APCOA and on non relevant land.
    To date, APCOA don't do court, don't use PoFA, and throw in airport byelaws, there is a chance the landowner would never get their money back if this was a genuine claim but farmed out to a PPC.


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  • Grizebeck
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    Fruitcake said:
    Maybe due to the amount involved, the landowner, who would be due any parking tariff, has decided they don't want to wait for a PPC to try and  collect the alleged money due, especially if it is APCOA and on non relevant land.
    To date, APCOA don't do court, don't use PoFA, and throw in airport byelaws, there is a chance the landowner would never get their money back if this was a genuine claim but farmed out to a PPC.


    Agree if it was a day's parking no one would bat an eyelid but given the amount I can understand why a complaint has been made.
  • Half_way
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    As with most things theres not enough of the right type of information as to why, and how this occurred, as ever do not id the driver or attempt to at this stage

    Was the vehicle on the site for the alleged time?
     Was this an ANPR miss read ( vehicle wasn't there)?

    Was it an ANPR miss read ( two trips counted as one) this could be where the vehicle was used to drop someone off on the way out, and then returned at a later date to pick them up using the car park as a drop off/pick up point ?


    Without knowing some of the facts, any useful advice is impossible to give apart form a few guesses as to what should be and what could have happened and what could be done if this was/is could perhaps maybe .
     The parking board is a busy place and other threads with the right info are easier to deal with than taking second guesses
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  • NCC1701-A
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    Grizebeck said:
    NCC1701-A said:
    Did you steal parking? Was your vehicle in the car park for a week?  

    If yes, this is being dealt with as a criminal matter and not a civil matter and you would be well advised to engage a solicitor to defend you.  
    This isn't mine I've been asked for advice
    100% agree its being dealt with as a criminal matter
    At the risk of repeating myself.  

    Did the driver steal parking? Was the vehicle in the car park for a week?
  • Grizebeck
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    NCC1701-A said:
    Grizebeck said:
    NCC1701-A said:
    Did you steal parking? Was your vehicle in the car park for a week?  

    If yes, this is being dealt with as a criminal matter and not a civil matter and you would be well advised to engage a solicitor to defend you.  
    This isn't mine I've been asked for advice
    100% agree its being dealt with as a criminal matter
    At the risk of repeating myself.  

    Did the driver steal parking? Was the vehicle in the car park for a week?
    For obvious reasons as this is criminal matter I can not say ( as it isnt my case or place to say either way) 
    I can see where this is heading and the person in question may well either get a summons to the mags court or invited for interview 
    They have been advised to seek legal advice for a criminal solicitor 

  • Mouse007
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    3 Making off without payment.

    (1)Subject to subsection (3) below, a person who, knowing that payment on the spot for any goods supplied or service done is required or expected from him, dishonestly makes off without having paid as required or expected and with intent to avoid payment of the amount due shall be guilty of an offence.



    No goods were supplied, what service was done? Was the car washed?


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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 July 2022 at 3:36PM
    Sounds like they might have made off without paying accumulated parking fees and possibly tailgated to get out. It shows a whole week and a large sum.

    I am guessing - but if that is the case (tailgating to avoid monies due to be paid 'on the spot') then IMHO they deserve what's coming to them.

    A cautionary tale.

    This is very different than a parking charge situation and in fact, it shows that PPCs are not needed at Airports...
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  • Snakes_Belly
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    Was the driver purposely avoiding payment or was there some genuine reason why this happened such as if they had been hospitalised, or a case of double dipping, or the signage was inadequate? 

    Was a PCN initially sent? This is usually a civil matter. 






         

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  • Snakes_Belly
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    I thought that the only laws that could be used for parking on private land were contract law and trespass which are civil matters. Theft is a criminal matter. 

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