EV Discussion thread

Grumpy_chap

We were on holiday in Spain recently and I noticed an advert for what appears to be a bargain:


The same car for the UK seems to be £18k.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference?
Is the Spanish poster advertising a price with plus VAT or something?  (Although I don't think the Spanish VAT rate is anywhere near 50%.)
Are the poster prices Spain and UK like-for-like?

MeteredOut

MikeJXE said:

Stop EV tariffs and pay the same as everyone else

That’s Fair 

Stop incentives to buy EVs and pay the same as ICE

That’s Fair

That works for those that don't care about the planet we leave for future generations, but not for those that do care.

You don't seem to realise that EV tariffs help everyone, not just those with EVs, as they help balance the grid. This means suppliers don't have to buy as much energy at more expensive times, thus enabling them to lower the price a little for everyone.

(disclosure: we are a 1 EV and 1 ICEV household, but majority of mileage in with the EV)

shinytop

Grumpy_chap said:

We were on holiday in Spain recently and I noticed an advert for what appears to be a bargain:


The same car for the UK seems to be £18k.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference?
Is the Spanish poster advertising a price with plus VAT or something?  (Although I don't think the Spanish VAT rate is anywhere near 50%.)
Are the poster prices Spain and UK like-for-like?

It includes Spain's MOVE III scrappage/incentive scheme, which offers 'up to' 7,000 Euro for EVs.  

And desde means 'from' ...

Grumpy_chap

shinytop said:

Grumpy_chap said:

We were on holiday in Spain recently and I noticed an advert for what appears to be a bargain:


The same car for the UK seems to be £18k.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference?
Is the Spanish poster advertising a price with plus VAT or something?  (Although I don't think the Spanish VAT rate is anywhere near 50%.)
Are the poster prices Spain and UK like-for-like?

It includes Spain's MOVE III scrappage/incentive scheme, which offers 'up to' 7,000 Euro for EVs.  

And desde means 'from' ...

Thank you - the scrappage scheme explains it.

The "from" is pretty much how car adverts are anywhere.

michaels

Grumpy_chap said:

shinytop said:

Grumpy_chap said:

We were on holiday in Spain recently and I noticed an advert for what appears to be a bargain:


The same car for the UK seems to be £18k.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference?
Is the Spanish poster advertising a price with plus VAT or something?  (Although I don't think the Spanish VAT rate is anywhere near 50%.)
Are the poster prices Spain and UK like-for-like?

It includes Spain's MOVE III scrappage/incentive scheme, which offers 'up to' 7,000 Euro for EVs.  

And desde means 'from' ...

Thank you - the scrappage scheme explains it.

The "from" is pretty much how car adverts are anywhere.

I wonder if Spain has the same situation where cars have a list price and then the option to go on carwow and get the same car for thousands less than list without even needing to do any negotiation?

shinytop

Grumpy_chap said:

shinytop said:

Grumpy_chap said:

We were on holiday in Spain recently and I noticed an advert for what appears to be a bargain:


The same car for the UK seems to be £18k.

Can anyone explain why there is such a difference?
Is the Spanish poster advertising a price with plus VAT or something?  (Although I don't think the Spanish VAT rate is anywhere near 50%.)
Are the poster prices Spain and UK like-for-like?

It includes Spain's MOVE III scrappage/incentive scheme, which offers 'up to' 7,000 Euro for EVs.  

And desde means 'from' ...

Thank you - the scrappage scheme explains it.

The "from" is pretty much how car adverts are anywhere.

Agreed but I pointed it out because this 'from' also includes the incentive, which is always quoted as an 'up to' figure.

JKenH

Sad news today. He will be sorely missed both within and outside the EV community.

Former Top Gear presenter Quentin Willson dies aged 68

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lpww7pw72o

Magnitio

JKenH said:

Sad news today. He will be sorely missed both within and outside the EV community.

Former Top Gear presenter Quentin Willson dies aged 68

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lpww7pw72o

I met Quentin once in the late 90's. He asked me what I drove and I told him that because of my job I had a diesel Passat, which I actually liked a lot. He told me that diesel was a nasty, smelly fuel that only belonged in trucks. It took me a few years to agree with him.

shinytop

Magnitio said:

JKenH said:

Sad news today. He will be sorely missed both within and outside the EV community.

Former Top Gear presenter Quentin Willson dies aged 68

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lpww7pw72o

I met Quentin once in the late 90's. He asked me what I drove and I told him that because of my job I had a diesel Passat, which I actually liked a lot. He told me that diesel was a nasty, smelly fuel that only belonged in trucks. It took me a few years to agree with him.

Late 90s diesels were brilliant cars; fast, reliable, economical.  These were the days. 

QrizB

I was at a fireworks show on Friday night. A small primary school event, like dozens that must've been taking place up and down the country that evening.

Usually they bring portable generators onto site to run lighting etc. but this year they were using V2L from one of the PTA member's MG 5. Much quieter and fewer diesel smells around the burger stand!