council rejected dropped kerb

diystarter7

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

[Deleted User]

The EV angle is the one to push. Since fossil fuel car sales are due to end soon, everyone is going to need to charge. Charging away from home is already much, much, much more expensive than charging at home. If the council doesn't do something it's going to cause massive inequality between people who can charge cheaply at home and people who can't.

On-street charging is also more expensive, it needs to be using your home energy supply. The council will doubtless want to avoid doing anything about it, but it's the only argument you can reasonably make.

Section62

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

diystarter7 said:

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

If the land is owned by the council housing department then it is a fairly obvious solution for the council to extend the parking area onto the grassed area to give more room to allow perpendicular parking.  Local authorities all over the country are doing just that to try to reduce problems with insufficient parking in their estates.  The cost won't be that great (in the context of housing budgets) unless there is very shallow utility plant which is in the way.

The best approach for the OP is to lobby the council to extend the communal parking area - getting support from other residents on the estate would help, as would approaching the ward councillors to get their support too.

You cannot know "they won't" unless the question is asked, and suggesting the OP moves house rather than trying to get the council to increase the parking area is ludicrous advice.

If the land isn't highway then running a cable across it to charge a vehicle carries the same risk as running a cable across it for other purposes - i.e. that if someone gets injured they may attempt to seek compensation for their injuries etc.  The landowner may be jointly liable, and for that reason the council may try to prevent residents from running cables over their land.

However, this also shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  Local authorities have a budget for the installation of EV charging points, and many are looking at how to install them in communal housing car parks.  An appropriate amount of 'fuss' made by the OP could get one or more EV charging points installed in the car park.

canaldumidi

Just thinking ouside the box, how about a campaign toget a localbus to visit the street? A decent regular public transport solution might remove the number of residents with cars.

Or set up a car-sharing cooperative?

eddddy

maybeatr33 said:

Ive also got an EV so having a drive would be useful to charge that (I charge it at work mostly, but this would still be benifical). 

As an alternative, you could ask the council about converting those street lamps next to the parking places to add EV chargers. (But obviously, that won't increase the number of parking spaces.)




TBH, it's mainly done in cities at the moment, but there are Government grants available - so maybe your council wants to be leading edge.

See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/grants-for-local-authorities-to-provide-residential-on-street-chargepoints/grants-to-provide-residential-on-street-chargepoints-for-plug-in-electric-vehicles-guidance-for-local-authorities

https://www.ubitricity.com/how-to-get-ev-charge-points-in-your-street/

diystarter7

Section62 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

diystarter7 said:

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

If the land is owned by the council housing department then it is a fairly obvious solution for the council to extend the parking area onto the grassed area to give more room to allow perpendicular parking.  Local authorities all over the country are doing just that to try to reduce problems with insufficient parking in their estates.  The cost won't be that great (in the context of housing budgets) unless there is very shallow utility plant which is in the way.

The best approach for the OP is to lobby the council to extend the communal parking area - getting support from other residents on the estate would help, as would approaching the ward councillors to get their support too.

You cannot know "they won't" unless the question is asked, and suggesting the OP moves house rather than trying to get the council to increase the parking area is ludicrous advice.

If the land isn't highway then running a cable across it to charge a vehicle carries the same risk as running a cable across it for other purposes - i.e. that if someone gets injured they may attempt to seek compensation for their injuries etc.  The landowner may be jointly liable, and for that reason the council may try to prevent residents from running cables over their land.

However, this also shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  Local authorities have a budget for the installation of EV charging points, and many are looking at how to install them in communal housing car parks.  An appropriate amount of 'fuss' made by the OP could get one or more EV charging points installed in the car park.

The bold bit. Why should I that has never lived in HA/council property/estate keep on paying for stuff like this?

When we had children, I wanted three but we knew we could only aford a three-bed house and the cost of rasing children so we had 2.

More recently I wanted to my my siblings 6 year old E class as he had it from new and looked after it but we did not because the car is about 8 inches too long for the drive.

When we bought our house/car we knew what the limitations of the property were.

Why should taxpayers keep on forking out for parking on estates?

I have to use public transport as do millions of others, why waste taxpayers' money on parking when it could be used to build/buy for the property.

I'm sorry but I'm fed up, seriously fed up working, paying taxes, paying for everything getting taxed and taxed again. There is no valid reason for the HA/council to waste hundreds of thousands on parking to make the area into a parking plot. ATM, it looks relatively ok. Not everyone will be happy on the estate losing green areas as not every household etc has a car.


My tip, if you are buying a EV, think about the charging and or parking before you buy it

NB: For the record, I'm not having a go at you and good luck but just saying how I feel and possibly many others like me.

user1977

diystarter7 said:

Section62 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

diystarter7 said:

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

If the land is owned by the council housing department then it is a fairly obvious solution for the council to extend the parking area onto the grassed area to give more room to allow perpendicular parking.  Local authorities all over the country are doing just that to try to reduce problems with insufficient parking in their estates.  The cost won't be that great (in the context of housing budgets) unless there is very shallow utility plant which is in the way.

The best approach for the OP is to lobby the council to extend the communal parking area - getting support from other residents on the estate would help, as would approaching the ward councillors to get their support too.

You cannot know "they won't" unless the question is asked, and suggesting the OP moves house rather than trying to get the council to increase the parking area is ludicrous advice.

If the land isn't highway then running a cable across it to charge a vehicle carries the same risk as running a cable across it for other purposes - i.e. that if someone gets injured they may attempt to seek compensation for their injuries etc.  The landowner may be jointly liable, and for that reason the council may try to prevent residents from running cables over their land.

However, this also shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  Local authorities have a budget for the installation of EV charging points, and many are looking at how to install them in communal housing car parks.  An appropriate amount of 'fuss' made by the OP could get one or more EV charging points installed in the car park.

Why should I that has never lived in HA/council property/estate keep on paying for stuff like this?

Calm down, nobody said you'd be paying for it. I'd expect it to be dealt with within the council's housing budget i.e. paid for by revenues from rent/service charges.

diystarter7

user1977 said:

diystarter7 said:

Section62 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

diystarter7 said:

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

If the land is owned by the council housing department then it is a fairly obvious solution for the council to extend the parking area onto the grassed area to give more room to allow perpendicular parking.  Local authorities all over the country are doing just that to try to reduce problems with insufficient parking in their estates.  The cost won't be that great (in the context of housing budgets) unless there is very shallow utility plant which is in the way.

The best approach for the OP is to lobby the council to extend the communal parking area - getting support from other residents on the estate would help, as would approaching the ward councillors to get their support too.

You cannot know "they won't" unless the question is asked, and suggesting the OP moves house rather than trying to get the council to increase the parking area is ludicrous advice.

If the land isn't highway then running a cable across it to charge a vehicle carries the same risk as running a cable across it for other purposes - i.e. that if someone gets injured they may attempt to seek compensation for their injuries etc.  The landowner may be jointly liable, and for that reason the council may try to prevent residents from running cables over their land.

However, this also shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  Local authorities have a budget for the installation of EV charging points, and many are looking at how to install them in communal housing car parks.  An appropriate amount of 'fuss' made by the OP could get one or more EV charging points installed in the car park.

Why should I that has never lived in HA/council property/estate keep on paying for stuff like this?

Calm down, nobody said you'd be paying for it. I'd expect it to be dealt with within the council's housing budget i.e. paid for by revenues from rent/service charges.

Who pays the "councils budget," that's right I and other taxpayers do. NB: I did say that money would be better spent on additional housing which you failed to pick up on. It could be spent on improving damp housing so parking is not a prority.

Brie

I think it might be easier to convince the council to put in charging points.  Of course there's no guarantee that a spot would be available when the OP comes home and nothing to stop any random ICE vehicle using them when the rest of the spots are taken. It's not like someone is going to come round and check that it's an EV rather than ICE taking up the space.

user1977

diystarter7 said:

user1977 said:

diystarter7 said:

Section62 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

diystarter7 said:

maybeatr33 said:

diystarter7 said:

amexblue said:

Maybe rather than wasting your energy with this and getting nowhere, what about campaigning to change the layout of the existing parking as the picture shows a lot of space could be being wasted there. The two cars on the left only use up half a bay each so that's potentially one extra space wasted. If most of your neighbours want a drive too then get them to ask about reconfiguration of the existing parking to free up extra space.

IMO, there is not a lot of room there if the cars you refer to were parked at right angles to the pavement. The road narrows quickly after the red car and some peoples driving skills are not good and this would often result in peoples cars getting damaged.

The only solution I see is moving or stay put and accept what it is.

They have almost the same amount of space as this with just unmaintanted grass.

Ok, go for it but as its going to cost money, they won't. Importantly, even if 2/4 more spaces were created it will not guarantee you a paring place outside your property.

NB: I'm not sure what the implications are of running a wire across the grass then the pavement to charge your car if someone decided to trip over it.

Good luck.

If the land is owned by the council housing department then it is a fairly obvious solution for the council to extend the parking area onto the grassed area to give more room to allow perpendicular parking.  Local authorities all over the country are doing just that to try to reduce problems with insufficient parking in their estates.  The cost won't be that great (in the context of housing budgets) unless there is very shallow utility plant which is in the way.

The best approach for the OP is to lobby the council to extend the communal parking area - getting support from other residents on the estate would help, as would approaching the ward councillors to get their support too.

You cannot know "they won't" unless the question is asked, and suggesting the OP moves house rather than trying to get the council to increase the parking area is ludicrous advice.

If the land isn't highway then running a cable across it to charge a vehicle carries the same risk as running a cable across it for other purposes - i.e. that if someone gets injured they may attempt to seek compensation for their injuries etc.  The landowner may be jointly liable, and for that reason the council may try to prevent residents from running cables over their land.

However, this also shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.  Local authorities have a budget for the installation of EV charging points, and many are looking at how to install them in communal housing car parks.  An appropriate amount of 'fuss' made by the OP could get one or more EV charging points installed in the car park.

Why should I that has never lived in HA/council property/estate keep on paying for stuff like this?

Calm down, nobody said you'd be paying for it. I'd expect it to be dealt with within the council's housing budget i.e. paid for by revenues from rent/service charges.

Who pays the "councils budget," that's right I and other taxpayers do.

No, that's wrong. You don't pay towards revenue for their housing department (unless you're a taxpayer who also happens to be a tenant or an owner paying a service charge).