I Bought an EX-MOD car, paying so much road tax Why!

daleos

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

So your saying as the vehicle was first registration was May 2017, which is after 1st April, I should be paying £165 ?

When the V5 states Date of first registration, who is it registered with ?, because it then goes on to state, Date of first registration with DVLA.

daleos

Yarisdiesel said:

Hi 
I did contact DVLA about it, their response was that once imported vehicles registered I can’t change it. 

Non sense I know, but I did not chase them after that.

they seemed to be happy that they getting extra money on tax and won’t change it 

The DVLA are telling me I can change it by completing a V70 form, provide a covering letter and the coc, however, the garage is telling me they tried to do this and the DVLA refused to. I then made contact with them again and they told me that the garage didn’t ask for the same thing as I was asking for but would not go into detail due to data protection. 

I just seem to be going around in circles. The last thing I want to do is shell out for a coc and they reject it.

Neil49

I recently got a coc from Ford for my 2018 Kuga as Tfl had got the incorrect emissions details on their database and I would have been charged if entering the new London ulez zone. Tfl required a copy of my V5 plus the coc containing my vin. 

I sent Ford a copy of my V5 and they provided me with the Certificate of Conformity the next day at no cost.

Are you sure of the price that has been quoted? 

Mildly_Miffed

daleos said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

So your saying as the vehicle was first registration was May 2017, which is after 1st April, I should be paying £165 ?

When the V5 states Date of first registration, who is it registered with ?, because it then goes on to state, Date of first registration with DVLA.

There's two dates on the V5C.
First Registered - May 2017
First Registered in the UK - January 2023

The 2017 date is wherever in the world it was registered before the UK, and comes from the import and registration paperwork.
The VED basis applicable to an imported car is the one that would have applied if it was new in the UK. The 2017 budget changed from CO2 taxing to flat rate plus £40k+ list price luxury premium, effective on 1/4/17.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

Neil49 - yes, Peugeot charge €220.
https://coc.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/en/

Ford don't quote a price.
https://www.ford.co.uk/support/how-tos/owner-resources/vehicle-documents/how-do-i-get-a-certificate-of-conformity

As usual, there are third party websites that will charge you more to do the same.

https://www.eurococ.eu/en/certificate-of-conformity-peugeot/ - €279
https://www.eurococ.eu/en/certificate-of-conformity-ford/ - €100

https://www.certificateconformity.co.uk/certificate-conformity-peugeot - £240
https://www.certificateconformity.co.uk/certificate-conformity-ford - £100

daleos

Neil49 said:

I recently got a coc from Ford for my 2018 Kuga as Tfl had got the incorrect emissions details on their database and I would have been charged if entering the new London ulez zone. Tfl required a copy of my V5 plus the coc containing my vin. 

I sent Ford a copy of my V5 and they provided me with the Certificate of Conformity the next day at no cost.

Are you sure of the price that has been quoted? 

Thanks, that is what is on the Peugeot website.

daleos

Mildly_Miffed said:

daleos said:

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

Mildly_Miffed said:

If the first registration date (anywhere, not UK) was after 1st April 2017, it shouldn't be CO2 taxed.

It should be on the flat-rate £165/year, regardless of whether there's an official CO2 figure or not.

So your saying as the vehicle was first registration was May 2017, which is after 1st April, I should be paying £165 ?

When the V5 states Date of first registration, who is it registered with ?, because it then goes on to state, Date of first registration with DVLA.

There's two dates on the V5C.
First Registered - May 2017
First Registered in the UK - January 2023

The 2017 date is wherever in the world it was registered before the UK, and comes from the import and registration paperwork.
The VED basis applicable to an imported car is the one that would have applied if it was new in the UK. The 2017 budget changed from CO2 taxing to flat rate plus £40k+ list price luxury premium, effective on 1/4/17.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

Neil49 - yes, Peugeot charge €220.
https://coc.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/en/

Ford don't quote a price.
https://www.ford.co.uk/support/how-tos/owner-resources/vehicle-documents/how-do-i-get-a-certificate-of-conformity

As usual, there are third party websites that will charge you more to do the same.

https://www.eurococ.eu/en/certificate-of-conformity-peugeot/ - €279
https://www.eurococ.eu/en/certificate-of-conformity-ford/ - €100

https://www.certificateconformity.co.uk/certificate-conformity-peugeot - £240
https://www.certificateconformity.co.uk/certificate-conformity-ford - £100

No, there are two dates on the V5C.

First registered - May 2017
First registered with DVLA - January 2023

The vehicle has never left the country. It came from a dealership in Chiswick originally (Robins and day) and service stamped by a  dealership in Plymouth.

Looking at the service book, it looks like it was first registered on what must have been an MOD plate.

cameron_1996

Hi 
I have a skoda octavia vrs 2015, ex MOD I believe the dealer told me (I think he said Ireland) same as above I am being taxed 325 instead of the 180ish it should be!! 

I have spoken with DVLA and sent them my CoC but all they have told me is that the CoC confirms it was not emission tested and therefore had to remain at the Higher tax class.

Is there anything i can do ? Maybe there's a test I can have done to prove it should be lower tax class ? 

Any help greatly appreciated 

smithbucks

Any luck with this? Exactly the same situation here with a 208, 1.6 Access. I bought a CoC from Peugeot, as advised by DVLA. They are now pretending they have not received it, despite recorded delivery. Bunch of crooks!!! This has been going on since March 2023. Really fed up. Wondering if I can take this higher up the legal chain than just an official complaint. 

Albertz11

I have the same issue on a Skoda Superb, which originally had a different registration number. When I go for parts etc my current Superb comes up as a Nissan duke.......DVLA do not want to know. Technically I could drive this car by going back to the original number plate and not pay road tax...then lets see how DVLA react.

daleos

I eventually sorted mine and the DVLA applied the lower rate, re-classifying my vehicle to a Diesel car, but here is what happened next....

I purchased an ex – MOD (Ministry of defence) Peugeot 208 Access 1.6 BLUE HDI 75 (DV6FE Euro 6) in March 2023 and found that the VED (Vehicle excise duty) was much higher than expected due to it being incorrectly registered as a PLG (Private light goods vehicle). It is NOT an IMPORT.

After querying this with the dealer, as I had expected it to be lower, they stated that they had attempted to change it with the DVLA but was not having much luck and the process was taking months. We both believed it should be registered as a Diesel car (after all, that is exactly what it is).

The Vehicle was first registered 09/05/2017 by the MOD under a different registration number to the one in which it was registered by the DVLA on 01/01/2023.

Then the saga started and after eight months of toing and frowing with the DVLA, they agreed with me and changed the taxation class to a Diesel car, refunded me for the overpayment and informed me that future VED would now be at the lower cost.

In January 2025, out of the blue, I received a New log book and suspicion arose. On checking, the DVLA had returned the taxation class to PLG, a letter from then followed which stated that the vehicle record had been incorrectly amended.

Confused and unhappy with this, I contacted them again, only to be told that despite providing them with (a Certificate of Conformity, at their request and a cost to me of £200) which details the emissions required to get the lower price VED that this was now NOT acceptable.

They explained that my vehicle should have been tested under the WLTP (Worldwide harmonised vehicle test procedure) in order for it to be classed as a Diesel car vs a PLG (Private light goods vehicle). The COC states that the vehicle was tested under the old NEDC (New European driving cycle) system and the emissions were 90g/km

 

After doing my homework, I am convinced that they are wrong and my reasons for this are as follows:-

 

The vehicle is NOT an IMPORT.

The WLTP came into effect in September 2017 and became Mandatory in 2018, yet the vehicle`s first registration was May 2017 which is BEFORE the WLTP test existed.

The Governments own website suggest I should pay the lower band.

The vehicle is ULEZ compliant EURO 6 and there is no congestion charges on the Governments own website.

The Governments own VCA (Vehicle certification agency) also confirms CO2 emissions of 90g/km.

The DVLA guide form states in point 36

36. CO2 (g/km) Take this information from the Certificate of Conformity (the combined figure). This will be the NEDC value or equivalent. For heavy duty vehicles, this should be the specific CO2 value recorded on the Certificate of Conformity.

In dispute with them once again, If anyone can help, please let me know, I am at the end of my tether.