I Bought an EX-MOD car, paying so much road tax Why!

Yarisdiesel

Hi All,

I bought a car " Toyota Yaris Diesel 1.4 D-4D T3" 2004
(54 Reg)

However, if you look at this type of car on Autotrader or any other site, you will see its Road tax of 30£ a year. trying to tax mine shows the tax due is £180 !!

I believe this has to do with the " Date of first registration " of my car.

a little bit about the car, it was a MOD car in Cyprus bought by a soldier in late December 2017 and brought to the UK in 2017, I'm the third owner.


The attached picture shows a comparison of vehicle details from DVLA " On the left side is my car details on the right side is another identical car details " mine is 180£ road tax and its twin is 30£ road tax"!



Is it possible because it was First registered "with DVLA" after 1 April 2017? even though the tax should be 165£ not 180£?

Should cars be taxed depending on "Date of first registration" or "first registration with DVLA"?

How did they come up with this amount of tax? Can I challenge this?

Manufacturer: TOYOTA,  Model: Yaris,        Description:1.4 D-4D, Gearbox: M5,   Engine size (cc): 1364, Fuel type: Diesel,  CO2:117,  Tax band: C.

Many thanks

Umkomaas

You're really in the wrong part of the MSE forum as we only deal with private parking issues here.  Can I suggest you post this on the general Motoring forum where I'm sure you'll get some helpful advice. 

MSE_ForumTeam5

We've moved this to the Motoring board

MarvinDay

It looks like there is an error with the data on the DVLA website as your car (on the left) is showing the CO2 emissions as zero, something that isn't possible with an internal combustion engine:

Because of this, their system might be defaulting to a figure far higher that it should be, hence the very high VED charge.

Alanp

Is it because the first registration with DVLA was december 17, ?, from April 1 that year tax changed to supposedly be spent on the roads from 2020, so, you could register a sub 100 co2 emissions car on 31st March and pay £0, or £30, but if the same emission car was registered on 1april it would be £140 ( I think it was back then), it might have been more back then

Mildly_Miffed

It's not because it was UK registered after 2017 - because the first registration date is the relevant one.

It's because when it was imported, the person who registered it didn't bother with a certificate of compliance to prove the CO2 for that exact car. That means DVLA have given it the 0g/km figure.

The certificate of compliance isn't needed for cars over 10 years old at the time of registering, but if the car is post-2001, it won't go onto CO2-based VED bands. As a result, it'll be taxed on the pre-2001 engine-size based bands. Below 1550cc, £180.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables/rates-for-cars-and-light-goods-vehicles-registered-before-1-march-2001

You need to get the certificate from Toyota GB for your exact car, and submit that to DVLA to get the CO2 corrected.

Grey_Critic

I regularly came across *private imports* from Cyprus. People *think* that a Ford Fiesta (I was with Ford) was just that but emmissions are/were often different together with various other things. One car we had from South Africa could only be made UK compliant at a cost of about £1,000

Once got a query about the spare wheel being secured by a chain (it said so in the handbook) but that rule did not apply in the UK - Handbooks are produced in many languages and are Generic so often feature things that are not available.

Yarisdiesel

Mildly_Miffed said:

It's not because it was UK registered after 2017 - because the first registration date is the relevant one.

It's because when it was imported, the person who registered it didn't bother with a certificate of compliance to prove the CO2 for that exact car. That means DVLA have given it the 0g/km figure.

The certificate of compliance isn't needed for cars over 10 years old at the time of registering, but if the car is post-2001, it won't go onto CO2-based VED bands. As a result, it'll be taxed on the pre-2001 engine-size based bands. Below 1550cc, £180.

You need to get the certificate from Toyota GB for your exact car, and submit that to DVLA to get the CO2 corrected.

Oh man 100 per cent right, even when I try to tax it the tax class says " PLG (Private/Light Goods)" i.e for cars registered pre-2001

Will contact Toyota GB to get the certificate and hopefully I will find a way? to submit it to DVLA!!

Thank you very much

Mildly_Miffed

Grey_Critic said:

I regularly came across *private imports* from Cyprus. People *think* that a Ford Fiesta (I was with Ford) was just that but emmissions are/were often different together with various other things. One car we had from South Africa could only be made UK compliant at a cost of about £1,000

Cyprus is in the EU, so this Yaris is to EU spec, which is what that certificate of compliance proves.

South Africa isn't.

Car_54

Mildly_Miffed said:

Grey_Critic said:

I regularly came across *private imports* from Cyprus. People *think* that a Ford Fiesta (I was with Ford) was just that but emmissions are/were often different together with various other things. One car we had from South Africa could only be made UK compliant at a cost of about £1,000

Cyprus is in the EU, so this Yaris is to EU spec, which is what that certificate of compliance proves.

Not necessarily. Cyprus actually joined the EU in April 2004, so the car may or may not be …

Grey_Critic

Just had a thought - are you sure it is ex MOD? Cars in Cyprus used to be much much cheaper than in the UK and service personel used to bring them back to the UK. Not sure if they got an allowance to do so but it is possible it was a private import.