Living in ULEZ with a non compliant car

f.castle

Hello,

Sadiq Khan plans to expand the ULEZ. I have a diesel from 2014 which is non compliant.
I live in the expansion zone.
will I be charged daily for simply having my car on the driveway?
or will I only be charged on the days I drive the car?

Where does he think people will get the money from, to buy another?

thanks,

DB1904

f.castle said:

Hello,

Sadiq Khan plans to expand the ULEZ. I have a diesel from 2014 which is non compliant.
I live in the expansion zone.
will I be charged daily for simply having my car on the driveway?
or will I only be charged on the days I drive the car?

Where does he think people will get the money from, to buy another?

thanks,

Given he's a politician this week he'll expect you to get another job or work harder. 

user1977

Given they've only just opened the consultation about it, nobody knows yet what the details will end up being. I see they are proposing a scrappage scheme though (assuming your car wouldn't fall under any of the exemptions).

https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/cleanair?tool=survey_tool

But I expect that (as with the current scheme) the charges are only for driving, not for being parked:

"However, you don't need to pay the ULEZ charge if you are parked inside the zone and don't drive."

Jaybee_16

I would expect the rules to be the same as the current ULEZ area, you pay to drive within the zone so if your car is parked and not driven there's no charge.

The Mayor's expectation is that you get rid of the car and use public transport.

soolin

Jaybee_16 said:

I would expect the rules to be the same as the current ULEZ area, you pay to drive within the zone so if your car is parked and not driven there's no charge.

The Mayor's expectation is that you get rid of the car and use public transport.

Which is great except that underground lines are routinely closed , the Elizabeth line has caused total mayhem with several years of no trains for weekend after weekend and buses that seem to run in pairs or not at all. 

Public transport is absolutely wonderful when it works (I live in Greater London) and the city really is my oyster, but it is unreliable. I’m sure It is also much better viewed from a ministerial or Government car as your driver takes you direct to your next meeting. 

f.castle

DB1904 said:

f.castle said:

Hello,

Sadiq Khan plans to expand the ULEZ. I have a diesel from 2014 which is non compliant.
I live in the expansion zone.
will I be charged daily for simply having my car on the driveway?
or will I only be charged on the days I drive the car?

Where does he think people will get the money from, to buy another?

thanks,

Given he's a politician this week he'll expect you to get another job or work harder. 

Great, i will find something else to cut out of my life. Perhaps I don’t really need holidays. 

f.castle

user1977 said:

Given they've only just opened the consultation about it, nobody knows yet what the details will end up being. I see they are proposing a scrappage scheme though (assuming your car wouldn't fall under any of the exemptions).

https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/cleanair?tool=survey_tool

But I expect that (as with the current scheme) the charges are only for driving, not for being parked:

"However, you don't need to pay the ULEZ charge if you are parked inside the zone and don't drive."

Thanks for this, useful link

facade

The enforcement cameras will be at the edges of the ULEZ, so you can drive around as much as you want as long as you stay within it, so the bigger it is, the better.

Car_54

facade said:

The enforcement cameras will be at the edges of the ULEZ, so you can drive around as much as you want as long as you stay within it, so the bigger it is, the better.

I can't see anything in the consultation document to support that supposition. Can you?

forgotmyname

facade said:

The enforcement cameras will be at the edges of the ULEZ, so you can drive around as much as you want as long as you stay within it, so the bigger it is, the better.

I did wonder about that, camera's are monitoring those that enter and leave the zone but if your already inside and do not leave the area is it then free
to drive within it?  Is it just the camera's entering the zone?

Wonder why the shops are getting fewer customers?   Total mystery.

facade

Car_54 said:

facade said:

The enforcement cameras will be at the edges of the ULEZ, so you can drive around as much as you want as long as you stay within it, so the bigger it is, the better.

I can't see anything in the consultation document to support that supposition. Can you?

I went on the press release about 750 new cameras going up to monitor entry into the ULEZ.

However you are right to question it, as Our Masters refuse to reveal any locations to an FOI request, and hint that they can use existing infrastructure like box junction & bus lane cameras etc. https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-0975-2122

I doubt if that is true, no evidence, just a gut feeling based on the complete failure to use existing infrastructure to catch untaxed, unMOTd & stolen vehicles, which you'd think would be trivial and potentially lucrative if they could negotiate even a 5% snitching fee with DVLA.