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CASE WON Student Accommodation with free parking

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  • Mouse007
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    Some further thoughts on my student son’s case, perhaps helpful for others if they find themselves in a similar position (ticketed in a residential parking space)

    Para 45 of the Assured Shorthold Tenancy states “The Tenant will have access to the common areas with a non exclusive license in common with the other tenants of the Landlord, the Landlord, the Landlords agent and any other person authorized by the Landlord.”

    The online listings for the property, being the agent’s website and facebook page, both state “There is free, off-road parking (first come, first served) at the rear of the property”

    There are no other references in either the tenancy agreement or online to parking at the property.

    These parking spaces are part of the common area to the property. The Tenancy grants the right to access without any terms or conditions.

    The PPC’s sign (below) was not offering anything that my son was not already entitled to. That means there can be no acceptance because there was no fresh consideration.

    You can not have a contract without an offer, acceptance and consideration.

    The whole basis of their claim is a contract was entered into, with no contract they have no claim.


    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 17 May 2022 at 5:00PM
    You've nailed it - plus look which sentence is in the very smallest font on that sign?!

    Unreadable, non-prominent terms or consumer notices are not binding on consumers (CRA 2015).
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  • Coupon-mad
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    I like that fightback.
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  • Mouse007
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    I like that fightback.

    Best form of defence :D

    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
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  • Mouse007
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    As expected :) received today from BW Legal

    NOTICE OF INTENTION TO PROCEED

    "notwithstanding your reasons for disputing the claim"

    giving us to 24 June to pay the claim in full. That's not going to happen.

    I doubt if anyone actually read the submitted defense, if they did they are clearly devoid of any knowledge about contract law - offer, acceptance AND consideration. All missing here.

    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
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  • Mouse007
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    On reflection I’m now tempted to reply to that last BW Law letter with

    "I refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkle v Pressdram"

    Maybe not, but thought it might amuse some of you



    BBC WatchDog “if you are struggling with an unfair parking charge do get in touch”


    Please email your PCN story to watchdog@bbc.co.uk they want to hear about it.
    Please then tell us here that you have done so.

  • Umkomaas
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    Mouse007 said:
    On reflection I’m now tempted to reply to that last BW Law letter with

    "I refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkle v Pressdram"

    Maybe not, but thought it might amuse some of you
    Do you mean the reply given, or your spelling of Arkell? 

    Arkle was an Irish racehorse, winning three Cheltenham Gold Cups.  😄
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    I like your family's style!
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