American fridge/freezer -What depth for wall unit over the top?

Sandtree

Sistergold said:

Sandtree said:

Sistergold said:

@Sandtree, maybe I misunderstood? But the all cabinets are being made to measurements I request/ custom made so any measurement will do. 

And so its up to you to decide what look you want... 600mm would mean its set back from the front by a fair way which to me would look odd but then I dont like the fridge/freezer doors sticking out of a wall of units that many do have like the below photo


In that setup the unit above the fridge doesn't typically go to the back wall so it gives more airflow to the rear of the machine however in your setup that isn't going to be possible. 

🥰🥳 BEAUTIFUL 

Personally, I dont like it... to me it looks very clunky having it sticking out. The problem is that there are only two other options if you want the built in look:

1) Get integrated fridge/freezer which means you lose a lot of capacity compared to a freestanding unit

2) Sell your kidneys and look at Mastercool, Monolith, Subzero etc which can be fully integrated flush without any sacrifice of capacity

BikingBud

Rosa_Damascena said:

To assist with the OP's dilemma, a real world case study (ie my kitchen):



It needs to protrude this amount:

Sorry but to me that doesn't look like  a well designed and thought out kitchen. A chucked in over size fridge freezer that impacts upon the smooth lines and would be concerned about the proximity and blocking of access to the ovens.

Always strikes me as a bit like this:

Bendy_House

I'm pretty sure that Sis is not attempting the 'built-in' look, but likes the free-standing habit of these !!!!!!. And that is them looking at their best.

It'll stick out ~100mm from the base unit line to its right - that's ok - but a lot more on the other side, where there's just a chimney breast. It'll look like what it is - a large, American-style, free-standing FF, at the end of a row of units.

She also wants as much storage space as possible, so always intended for a wall-mounted unit to continue over the FF. To my mind, anything other than full-depth (~700mm) here would look wrong, and also not be very practical.

It might be that her current FF - at 'only' 830mm wide - will look better than a wider replacement for just that reason; it'll have enough space either side to make it obvious it ain't anything other than a free-standing jobbie.

Rosa_Damascena

BikingBud said:

Rosa_Damascena said:

To assist with the OP's dilemma, a real world case study (ie my kitchen):



It needs to protrude this amount:

Sorry but to me that doesn't look like  a well designed and thought out kitchen. A chucked in over size fridge freezer that impacts upon the smooth lines and would be concerned about the proximity and blocking of access to the ovens.

Always strikes me as a bit like this:

The FF was entirely down to me, I had a 1000mm space left for it knowing I wanted a freestanding American FF (an integrated unit was not for me) and picked the model. There is no issue in accessing the oven at all.

What's shown is a small fraction of the finished project, which is flush and beautiful. People draw breath when they see it in its full glory.

@Bendy_House - its a Symphony kitchen in Atlantic Green. You may remember my post about cabinet doors and paint colours about a year ago!

Sistergold

Sandtree said:

Sistergold said:

Sandtree said:

Sistergold said:

@Sandtree, maybe I misunderstood? But the all cabinets are being made to measurements I request/ custom made so any measurement will do. 

And so its up to you to decide what look you want... 600mm would mean its set back from the front by a fair way which to me would look odd but then I dont like the fridge/freezer doors sticking out of a wall of units that many do have like the below photo


In that setup the unit above the fridge doesn't typically go to the back wall so it gives more airflow to the rear of the machine however in your setup that isn't going to be possible. 

🥰🥳 BEAUTIFUL 

Personally, I dont like it... to me it looks very clunky having it sticking out. The problem is that there are only two other options if you want the built in look:

1) Get integrated fridge/freezer which means you lose a lot of capacity compared to a freestanding unit

2) Sell your kidneys and look at Mastercool, Monolith, Subzero etc which can be fully integrated flush without any sacrifice of capacity

I found the kitchen beautiful but I guess the sticking point was how to house or accommodate the FF? The kitchen units I find them stunning. 

Sistergold

Bendy_House said:

I'm pretty sure that Sis is not attempting the 'built-in' look, but likes the free-standing habit of these !!!!!!. And that is them looking at their best.

It'll stick out ~100mm from the base unit line to its right - that's ok - but a lot more on the other side, where there's just a chimney breast. It'll look like what it is - a large, American-style, free-standing FF, at the end of a row of units.

She also wants as much storage space as possible, so always intended for a wall-mounted unit to continue over the FF. To my mind, anything other than full-depth (~700mm) here would look wrong, and also not be very practical.

It might be that her current FF - at 'only' 830mm wide - will look better than a wider replacement for just that reason; it'll have enough space either side to make it obvious it ain't anything other than a free-standing jobbie.

You are right the look is indeed avoiding the “ built-in” look. All pieces individually made, freestanding, on wheels can be reconfigured by moving them around at whim. So I can actually have any shape or size I choose as it’s obvious I am not trying to create a straight line. So any suggestions which make sense will do. This is a free spirited kitchen where I can push out all units to the garden and hold a party in the kitchen if it came to that. 🦹🏻‍♀️ 

Sandtree

Rosa_Damascena said:

The FF was entirely down to me, I had a 1000mm space left for it knowing I wanted a freestanding American FF (an integrated unit was not for me) and picked the model. There is no issue in accessing the oven at all.

What's shown is a small fraction of the finished project, which is flush and beautiful. People draw breath when they see it in its full glory.

@Bendy_House - its a Symphony kitchen in Atlantic Green. You may remember my post about cabinet doors and paint colours about a year ago!

More important than anything is the fact you are happy with it... a friend has an absolutely stunning kitchen (its been in magazines) but has the carbuncle fridge/freezer sticking out an otherwise seamless kitchen. Certainly takes peoples breath too but people do ask why the FF is sticking out 10cm when everything else is sleek. Doesn't impact function, access etc, just looks like an obvious compromise and almost looks worse because everything else looks so perfect.

Not to say yours doesn't look perfect but the shaker doors, handles etc you already have lots of angles, protrusions etc so softens the blow of the protrusion of the FF... theirs are handless slab doors and could almost be mistaken for a single continuous wall which makes the gap around it and sticking out more of a sore thumb.

Sistergold said:
I found the kitchen beautiful but I guess the sticking point was how to house or accommodate the FF? The kitchen units I find them stunning. 

I was referring only to how the FF fits in the scene rather than the rest of the kitchen... freestanding !!!!!! (other than the super lux brands) have to have space around them for cooling and need to be proud of the surface to enable the doors to open fully. Units designed for integration for mortal budgets are intended to stand insider a larder unit and have to spend more space on heat management given they are boxed in so have much diminished capacity compared to their freestanding brethren 

victor2

Another thing to consider is if the fridge/freezer has a water & ice dispenser requiring a dedicated water feed. Many such appliances have a filter externally mounted, usually behind the unit. That goes easily in the gap you must leave for airflow anyway, but you do need to pull the unit out to change the filter (every 6 months on ours). When we had our kitchen done, we had an island, and one of the key criteria was that there was enough space to pull the fridge/freezer out and move it sideways without being blocked by the island - which has power going to it and is granite topped, so not easily moved!.

Bendy_House

Sistergold said:

You are right the look is indeed avoiding the “ built-in” look. All pieces individually made, freestanding, on wheels can be reconfigured by moving them around at whim. So I can actually have any shape or size I choose as it’s obvious I am not trying to create a straight line. So any suggestions which make sense will do. This is a free spirited kitchen where I can push out all units to the garden and hold a party in the kitchen if it came to that. 🦹🏻‍♀️ 

Wow! Photos when it's done DEF needed then! Pleeeeez!

Bendy_House

Rosa_Damascena said:

What's shown is a small fraction of the finished project, which is flush and beautiful. People draw breath when they see it in its full glory.

@Bendy_House - its a Symphony kitchen in Atlantic Green. You may remember my post about cabinet doors and paint colours about a year ago!

It's hand-painted? Wow. Could you remind me of that thread, please - is it easy for you to find again?

Who makes Atlantic Green? And is it durable?

Thanks. Gorgeous colour.