We don’t have the booster for Spain

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  • Rubyred27x
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    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    After two vaccines illnesses and then still been in hospital with covid the booster is my last wish. I would lose money for the holiday. I would leave my long time job in the NHS if it was compulsory too. The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. Not if I knew which I can assure you I have seen first hand why the booster came out. So your remark “other than facilitating a holiday” was not kind and not needed. This is my first post on here but even I know the difference between different views and judgmental remarks. 
  • silvercar
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    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    After two vaccines illnesses and then still been in hospital with covid the booster is my last wish. I would lose money for the holiday. I would leave my long time job in the NHS if it was compulsory too. The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. Not if I knew which I can assure you I have seen first hand why the booster came out. So your remark “other than facilitating a holiday” was not kind and not needed. This is my first post on here but even I know the difference between different views and judgmental remarks. 
    Apologies, I failed to notice you were a new poster. Welcome, I hope you stick around.

    We’ll have to agree to differ on the benefits of the vaccine. I’ve been working in a vaccine clinic and we genuinely feel we are reducing the burden on the NHS.
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  • mattyprice4004
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    It's pretty clear that overall the vaccines are a good thing - but if I had a bad reaction to both 'first' doses I'd have avoided a booster too. 
    Luckily I was OK, both with the jabs and when I actually had COVID too. 

    Good luck with your holiday OP, I'm sure by June things will be almost normal. Lanzarote is a fantastic place and I can't wait to go back. :)
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    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. 
    It’s not on Jet2 to honour anything. The Spanish government make the rules on entry for their country, not the airline. 
    If you booked before 1st February and therefore no longer meet the new entry rules you need to consult your travel insurance to see if they will cover it.
    That is assuming your flight/package is non-refundable.

    But it is the Spanish government making the rules, not the airline. Jet2 will honour the holiday if you meet the rules in place for entry to the destination. That was the same before covid too where visas or certain vaccines are required for travel to some countries.
  • Rubyred27x
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    jon81uk said:
    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. 
    It’s not on Jet2 to honour anything. The Spanish government make the rules on entry for their country, not the airline. 
    If you booked before 1st February and therefore no longer meet the new entry rules you need to consult your travel insurance to see if they will cover it.
    That is assuming your flight/package is non-refundable.

    But it is the Spanish government making the rules, not the airline. Jet2 will honour the holiday if you meet the rules in place for entry to the destination. That was the same before covid too where visas or certain vaccines are required for travel to some countries.
    Thank you for your time to reply.
    If say the Spanish Government was to close Spain tomorrow as it is their rules, would Jet 2 not pay out to its customers, I do believe they may. I do not work in this trade so still I am unsure. This forum has many and maybe someone was in the same boat as me and their Holidays have now past. Then they would have been able to tell me their scenario. Or maybe one that worked or works with Jet 2 ? 
    I have not at anytime judged who should or should not have vaccinations. Or stated that Jet 2 must honour the new rules and demand my monies back. 
    I am a frequent traveler, having just flown back from Barbados in December with not even half the fuss. Yet it seems going over to Spain and their every changing rules is a nightmare. 
    Most reply’s have been welcoming and let me see the many points of view. Many seem that when they assume things they are correct. 

     
  • soolin
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    jon81uk said:
    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. 
    It’s not on Jet2 to honour anything. The Spanish government make the rules on entry for their country, not the airline. 
    If you booked before 1st February and therefore no longer meet the new entry rules you need to consult your travel insurance to see if they will cover it.
    That is assuming your flight/package is non-refundable.

    But it is the Spanish government making the rules, not the airline. Jet2 will honour the holiday if you meet the rules in place for entry to the destination. That was the same before covid too where visas or certain vaccines are required for travel to some countries.
    Thank you for your time to reply.
    If say the Spanish Government was to close Spain tomorrow as it is their rules, would Jet 2 not pay out to its customers, I do believe they may. I do not work in this trade so still I am unsure. This forum has many and maybe someone was in the same boat as me and their Holidays have now past. Then they would have been able to tell me their scenario. Or maybe one that worked or works with Jet 2 ? 
    I have not at anytime judged who should or should not have vaccinations. Or stated that Jet 2 must honour the new rules and demand my monies back. 
    I am a frequent traveler, having just flown back from Barbados in December with not even half the fuss. Yet it seems going over to Spain and their every changing rules is a nightmare. 
    Most reply’s have been welcoming and let me see the many points of view. Many seem that when they assume things they are correct. 

     
    If the flight did not go ahead due to any no landing policy put in place by the Spanish Government then Jet 2 would refund (probably) . However if Spain only banned non Spanish citizens and the flight still ran then no they wouldn’t have to refund anyone.

    This is the exact scenario that many travellers to the US were faced with when the US allowed their own Nationals to travel, plus non nationals with special reasons, so flights still ran. It then becomes an insurance issue, but unfortunately many found they were not covered there either.

    So no, as you are being told you cannot demand your money back , all you can do is hope that Spain relax their rules, and things change all the time.

    Read some other threads on this forum, you are not alone , many people have lost a great deal of money these past 2 years, many on last minute rule changes. 
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  • jon81uk
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    jon81uk said:
    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. 
    It’s not on Jet2 to honour anything. The Spanish government make the rules on entry for their country, not the airline. 
    If you booked before 1st February and therefore no longer meet the new entry rules you need to consult your travel insurance to see if they will cover it.
    That is assuming your flight/package is non-refundable.

    But it is the Spanish government making the rules, not the airline. Jet2 will honour the holiday if you meet the rules in place for entry to the destination. That was the same before covid too where visas or certain vaccines are required for travel to some countries.
    Thank you for your time to reply.
    If say the Spanish Government was to close Spain tomorrow as it is their rules, would Jet 2 not pay out to its customers, I do believe they may. I do not work in this trade so still I am unsure. This forum has many and maybe someone was in the same boat as me and their Holidays have now past. Then they would have been able to tell me their scenario. Or maybe one that worked or works with Jet 2 ? 
    I have not at anytime judged who should or should not have vaccinations. Or stated that Jet 2 must honour the new rules and demand my monies back. 
    I am a frequent traveler, having just flown back from Barbados in December with not even half the fuss. Yet it seems going over to Spain and their every changing rules is a nightmare. 
    Most reply’s have been welcoming and let me see the many points of view. Many seem that when they assume things they are correct. 

     
    If the flight takes off then Jet2 have provided the service. If you are unable to board due to the destinations entry requirements then you need to look at claiming on travel insurance. 
    If the flight is cancelled by Jet2 then they will refund.
  • Spaceace
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    jon81uk said:
    silvercar said:
    You may want to think about having another brand of booster to your main doses. Plenty people have had Pfizer after AZ main doses with no side effects. Also, remember that the purpose of the vaccine is to prevent serious illness or death from covid, so it has a purpose other than facilitating your holiday.


    The main question was because I booked pre Spains new rules does Jet 2 honour this. 
    It’s not on Jet2 to honour anything. The Spanish government make the rules on entry for their country, not the airline. 
    If you booked before 1st February and therefore no longer meet the new entry rules you need to consult your travel insurance to see if they will cover it.
    That is assuming your flight/package is non-refundable.

    But it is the Spanish government making the rules, not the airline. Jet2 will honour the holiday if you meet the rules in place for entry to the destination. That was the same before covid too where visas or certain vaccines are required for travel to some countries.
    Thank you for your time to reply.
    If say the Spanish Government was to close Spain tomorrow as it is their rules, would Jet 2 not pay out to its customers, I do believe they may. I do not work in this trade so still I am unsure. This forum has many and maybe someone was in the same boat as me and their Holidays have now past. Then they would have been able to tell me their scenario. Or maybe one that worked or works with Jet 2 ? 
    I have not at anytime judged who should or should not have vaccinations. Or stated that Jet 2 must honour the new rules and demand my monies back. 
    I am a frequent traveler, having just flown back from Barbados in December with not even half the fuss. Yet it seems going over to Spain and their every changing rules is a nightmare. 
    Most reply’s have been welcoming and let me see the many points of view. Many seem that when they assume things they are correct. 

     
    In the circumstances you describe Jet 2 would almost certainly refund customers as they would be unable to fulfil their obligations under the contract to provide the holiday.

    However, that is a very different situation from yours: Spain have introduced a 'health protection measure' that you are capable of complying with but, for whatever reasons (irrespective of how valid you feel them to be), are not prepared to.  Jet 2 have no responsibility to accommodate your objection to complying with Spanish entry requirements just as they wouldn't if you chose not to renew your passport (another requirement for entry to Spain.  I doubt your insurance will cover you either as the sitution is one of your own making and could be easily rectified by action on your part.

    You have accepted that you would leave your job if forced to get a booster, you also need to accept that, until they decide to change their rules or you get boosted, Spain is closed to you. 
  • onashoestring
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    edited 28 April 2022 at 9:46AM
    https://www.jet2.com/en/flights/safe-travel/travel-requirements 

    Jet2 are quite clear on their website that it is in their words “essential” that you 
    *check the entry requirements before you select your destination and
    * check the requirements regularly before you depart. 

    Their Changes and Refunds Policy 
    also states  : The COVID-19 vaccination programme in the UK is currently open to everyone aged 12 or over. You’ll need to be fully vaccinated at least 14 days before your arrival. 

    According to these T&Cs you are not entitled to a refund for choosing not to be fully vaccinated and if you decide to change the destination you will need to pay the associated admin fees . 
  • sheramber
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    As the level of virus infection fluctuates changes of entry regulations for everywhere will be an ongoing risk for some time.

    If the level in Uk drops sufficiently Spain will change the rules as they have done with other countries. 

    Until then you can only keep checking for any updates.
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