Stop Scaremongering

MouldyOldDough

Ectophile said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Broadwood said:

MouldyOldDough said:

anotheruser said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Mstty said:

Most people don't understand units charges so they have broadly put it in terms for pence and pounds as an average for the average user.

Sorry - but why don't people understand unit charges ? I would have thought that that is a simple way of calculating energy use .

x uses y energy per hour - simple.

Because most people don't know how many units it would take to power a lightbulb for an hour.
Or power their TV, washing machine, fridge...  and what typeof lightbulb?  An LED one?  An old one?  Energy saving?  And the 4W bulb in that lamp is different to the 6W one in the ceiling lights - I probably have about 7 different types around my house - are you saying I should know the cost in units per hour for each one?

Yet people can understand they'll have to pay a lot more these days and that value is so unlikely to go down, it's not worth thinking about.

I agree

People don't realise that in order of consumption / running costs- it goes

KETTLES - But these only run for a few minutes a day

HEATING & TUMBLE DRIER
OVENs

WASHING MACHINES

TV's AND FRIDGES etc

And way down at the bottom....

.........

LED Lights

and below that

USB chargers

MAYBE Education is the answer ?
Ignore the worry worts who tell you not to leave things on standby 

https://www.gocompare.com/gas-and-electricity/guide/energy-per-kwh/ is wrong - it says that a fridge freezer uses 330watts - which is untrue (ours runs at around 100 watts and intermitently) (duty cycle)TV's as well - incorrectly rated as 150 watts - ours uses 1/3 of this

Seems people need to think more about the combination of for how long and how fast their meter is adding units.
Kettle use is a good place to start. It's using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside.
Therefore logic dictates only fill it with the exact amount of water you need to boil up.
90% of my kettle use is for making drinks for 2 of us but occasionally 3 or 4 cups if we have visitors, so I have marked the vertical window with dots for 2, 3 and 4 cups worth of water and fill it accordingly.

Every Little Helps - to keep total usage as low as possible - with the minimum amount of power and money wasted.

Almost right
A kettle does not use 2kW per second 

Broadwood never said it took 2kW per second.

He did :
 'using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside."

ctdctd

MouldyOldDough said:

Ectophile said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Broadwood said:

MouldyOldDough said:

anotheruser said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Mstty said:

Most people don't understand units charges so they have broadly put it in terms for pence and pounds as an average for the average user.

Sorry - but why don't people understand unit charges ? I would have thought that that is a simple way of calculating energy use .

x uses y energy per hour - simple.

Because most people don't know how many units it would take to power a lightbulb for an hour.
Or power their TV, washing machine, fridge...  and what typeof lightbulb?  An LED one?  An old one?  Energy saving?  And the 4W bulb in that lamp is different to the 6W one in the ceiling lights - I probably have about 7 different types around my house - are you saying I should know the cost in units per hour for each one?

Yet people can understand they'll have to pay a lot more these days and that value is so unlikely to go down, it's not worth thinking about.

I agree

People don't realise that in order of consumption / running costs- it goes

KETTLES - But these only run for a few minutes a day

HEATING & TUMBLE DRIER
OVENs

WASHING MACHINES

TV's AND FRIDGES etc

And way down at the bottom....

.........

LED Lights

and below that

USB chargers

MAYBE Education is the answer ?
Ignore the worry worts who tell you not to leave things on standby 

https://www.gocompare.com/gas-and-electricity/guide/energy-per-kwh/ is wrong - it says that a fridge freezer uses 330watts - which is untrue (ours runs at around 100 watts and intermitently) (duty cycle)TV's as well - incorrectly rated as 150 watts - ours uses 1/3 of this

Seems people need to think more about the combination of for how long and how fast their meter is adding units.
Kettle use is a good place to start. It's using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside.
Therefore logic dictates only fill it with the exact amount of water you need to boil up.
90% of my kettle use is for making drinks for 2 of us but occasionally 3 or 4 cups if we have visitors, so I have marked the vertical window with dots for 2, 3 and 4 cups worth of water and fill it accordingly.

Every Little Helps - to keep total usage as low as possible - with the minimum amount of power and money wasted.

Almost right
A kettle does not use 2kW per second 

Broadwood never said it took 2kW per second.

He did :
 'using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside."

A 2kW kettle always uses 2kW when it is on - kW is a measure of power and does not include time.

If you want time included, it uses 0.000555kWh for every second it is heating the water inside!

MouldyOldDough

ctdctd said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Ectophile said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Broadwood said:

MouldyOldDough said:

anotheruser said:

MouldyOldDough said:

Mstty said:

Most people don't understand units charges so they have broadly put it in terms for pence and pounds as an average for the average user.

Sorry - but why don't people understand unit charges ? I would have thought that that is a simple way of calculating energy use .

x uses y energy per hour - simple.

Because most people don't know how many units it would take to power a lightbulb for an hour.
Or power their TV, washing machine, fridge...  and what typeof lightbulb?  An LED one?  An old one?  Energy saving?  And the 4W bulb in that lamp is different to the 6W one in the ceiling lights - I probably have about 7 different types around my house - are you saying I should know the cost in units per hour for each one?

Yet people can understand they'll have to pay a lot more these days and that value is so unlikely to go down, it's not worth thinking about.

I agree

People don't realise that in order of consumption / running costs- it goes

KETTLES - But these only run for a few minutes a day

HEATING & TUMBLE DRIER
OVENs

WASHING MACHINES

TV's AND FRIDGES etc

And way down at the bottom....

.........

LED Lights

and below that

USB chargers

MAYBE Education is the answer ?
Ignore the worry worts who tell you not to leave things on standby 

https://www.gocompare.com/gas-and-electricity/guide/energy-per-kwh/ is wrong - it says that a fridge freezer uses 330watts - which is untrue (ours runs at around 100 watts and intermitently) (duty cycle)TV's as well - incorrectly rated as 150 watts - ours uses 1/3 of this

Seems people need to think more about the combination of for how long and how fast their meter is adding units.
Kettle use is a good place to start. It's using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside.
Therefore logic dictates only fill it with the exact amount of water you need to boil up.
90% of my kettle use is for making drinks for 2 of us but occasionally 3 or 4 cups if we have visitors, so I have marked the vertical window with dots for 2, 3 and 4 cups worth of water and fill it accordingly.

Every Little Helps - to keep total usage as low as possible - with the minimum amount of power and money wasted.

Almost right
A kettle does not use 2kW per second 

Broadwood never said it took 2kW per second.

He did :
 'using about 2kW of power for every second it is heating the water inside."

A 2kW kettle always uses 2kW when it is on - kW is a measure of power and does not include time.

If you want time included, it uses 0.000555kWh for every second it is heating the water inside!

Exactly - it's like someone SAYING" My car can do 100mph PER hour"