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  • KeithP
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    Where exactly did this alleged parking event take place?
  • Fruitcake said:
    You might be able to find the signs on GoogleStreetView, by changing the image date in the top left box (arrow).
    Thanks for this.  I looked it up but you have to spend £6.00 a month to get that service.  I did take some screen shots though which shows there are not that many signs up but I couldn't zoom in enough to see the writing on the signs.
    There is no charge associated with changing the image capture date on GSV.
    You click on the clock icon near the top left of the image next to the word Street View and a slider with different capture dates will appear if they were taken on different occasions.
    You select the date (year) you want to look at, then click on the thumbnail image to change the main image to the historic view you have chosen.




    I am feeling pretty useless atm.  I am not getting that screen and can't find out how to post the screen shot of my screen.



    I am feeling pretty useless atm.  I am not getting that screen and can't find out how to post the screen shot of my screen.
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 27 March 2022 at 7:49PM
    You may struggle to get GSV to work on a 'phone if that is what you are doing.

    Bring up Google Maps, type in the location you want to look at, then select street view once the map has loaded by dragging and dropping the little man (Peg Man) in the bottom right to a known point such as the car park entrance or a named road. 

    You should then see something like this. Then click on the clock icon 
    surrounded by circular arrows in the black box at the top left of the image. A drop down thumbnail image with the date slider on the bottom should then appear as per my previous post.



     

    Please tell us precisely where the alleged event happened, and when.


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  • Umkomaas said:
    Your SAR will bring you a copy of the original Notice to Keeper, that will confirm what you're looking for. I'm in no doubt that Highview NtKs were not PoFA-compliant then. They've never attempted to invoke keeper liability, even with much more recent ones. 
    Umkomaas said:
    Your SAR will bring you a copy of the original Notice to Keeper, that will confirm what you're looking for. I'm in no doubt that Highview NtKs were not PoFA-compliant then. They've never attempted to invoke keeper liability, even with much more recent ones. 

    I have looked up the original notice to keeper.   It says  'The driver of this vehicle is required to pay this charge within the time frame stated above. As we do not know the driver's name or postal address, if you were not the driver at the time, you should provide us with the name and postal address of the driver and pass this notice to them.' 

    PFOA says they need to 'Warn the keeper that if the parking charges remains outstanding after 28 days and the name and address of the driver has not been given, or otherwise known to the person entitled to the parking charge,  that “creditor” will be entitled to recover the parking charge from the registered keeper.' It doesn't say this so I presume I could use this in my defence i.e. I didn't know who the driver was.
    It says they are operating within the British Parking Association's Code of Practice.
  • Fruitcake said:
    Hopefully you sent an SAR, not a FOI request. 

    I am fairly certain that six years ago, Highview did not issue PoFA compliant NTKs, and therefore the keeper cannot be held liable.

    If you are not sure who was driving, then the PPC have got no chance of knowing. Don't go looking for a reason to lose the case. When you get to the defence stage, one of your defence points will be that the keeper can't remember who was driving on an unremarkable day nearly six years ago. They should also state that multiple people had use of the car. 
    They should mention nothing about the type of licence anyone had. It is irrelevant. If there were several named drivers on the insurance, then say so. If other family members or friends or garage mechanics had access to the car, then say so.
    Small Claims are decided on the balance of probabilities. 50/50 that it could have been someone else is good enough. 33% is even better.

    Please tell us the location of the alleged event. It may have cropped up here before. Be as precise as possible.

    Don't forget the complaint to the defendant's MP as well.

    Sorry, I'm not up to speed with using the forum yet.  Please see my comment above. The alleged event was alleged to be at Riverside parking A, Norwich. I wish I could work out how to change the date on Google street view as I cannot find the clock when I look.
  • Fruitcake
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    edited 27 March 2022 at 8:57PM
    Please tell us when the alleged event occurred. Month and year will do.

    Was this the large open air car park in the retail park, or the multistorey car park?
    If it was in the large open air car park, have you any idea whereabouts? Knowing which shops it was near, and which entrance road was used (Albion Way?) will help.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 27 March 2022 at 11:46PM

    The alleged event was alleged to be at Riverside parking A, Norwich. I wish I could work out how to change the date on Google street view as I cannot find the clock when I look.
    On a phone it's not there.

    You just need to be on a laptop and there is the little box you were shown, top left.
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  • Fruitcake said:
    Please tell us when the alleged event occurred. Month and year will do.

    Was this the large open air car park in the retail park, or the multistorey car park?
    If it was in the large open air car park, have you any idea whereabouts? Knowing which shops it was near, and which entrance road was used (Albion Way?) will help.
    It was June 2016.  Large open air car park near Hobby craft, Matalan etc. Albion Way entrance.

  • Fruitcake said:
    You may struggle to get GSV to work on a 'phone if that is what you are doing.

    Bring up Google Maps, type in the location you want to look at, then select street view once the map has loaded by dragging and dropping the little man (Peg Man) in the bottom right to a known point such as the car park entrance or a named road. 

    You should then see something like this. Then click on the clock icon 
    surrounded by circular arrows in the black box at the top left of the image. A drop down thumbnail image with the date slider on the bottom should then appear as per my previous post.



     

    Please tell us precisely where the alleged event happened, and when.


    Thanks I've found the map now.  I've got a screen shot of the car park and the signs in May 2019 (I couldn't get 2016) seem few and far between from the disabled parking places.  
  • Coupon-mad
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    Are there no older images of the car park when you do as advised, click on the little arrow to change the date?
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