help need help!!!!

Pobby

fc123 wrote: »

If the only option was an M + B unit, I believe my niece would not have fallen pregnant.

Thank you for your honesty.I mean that.

PandaPants_2

I dont think we should be encouraging the "lady" in question to lie and cheat her way into a free house. I would prefer the £4800 tax i pay per year to go to hospitals and schools, not an irresponsible teenager.
I wish the government would introduce a "contribution scheme" allowing taxpayers to decide where their tax money goes. It disgusts me to think im working a 44 hour week to support people who think we all owe them a living.

Pobby

PandaPants wrote: »

I dont think we should be encouraging the "lady" in question to lie and cheat her way into a free house. I would prefer the £4800 tax i pay per year to go to hospitals and schools, not an irresponsible teenager.
I wish the government would introduce a "contribution scheme" allowing taxpayers to decide where their tax money goes. It disgusts me to think im working a 44 hour week to support people who think we all owe them a living.

Yep.Wonder how many teen mothers would get a vote for large hand outs?

SarahLouz

This all just makes me sick! I know of a few people who have got pregnant, then said they have been made homeless and straight away get housed in a nice 2/3 bedroomed house. Some of them even have boyfriends earning good money! but funnily enough claim to be a single parent, even though the boyfriend lives with them! Then they sit in their nice houses, rent free because they apparently can't work! I may sound bitter, even jealous but I have worked since I was 18 (now 24) and wouldn't consider getting pregnant (yes you do have a choice, use protection!) until myself and my boyfriend are in a position where we can easily afford it and our hefty mortgage and bills! Oh how I would love it to be different but my morals stop me. I seem to be the only one these days

kingsand

I do not want to get involved in the irresponsible teenagers thread as this has happened to my family. I now have a grandson who is georgeous although I would have wished it had happenend later in life for all concerned.His parents have been forced into private accommodation because there is nothing available for them through the council. If you go down the making them homeless route in my area (oxfordshire) the only option is emergency housing which is not local or particularly pleasant. Please be aware that this is the only option in some cases. There are not enough council assisted places for people who need them full stop. In the private sector it is possible to rent and claim housing benefit. If they go to their local Housing Department, they can get a rough idea what they will be entitled to based on their income and this may give them some options. Some private landlords will not accept housing benefit but there are a lot who will as it is assured rent. I hope that this is helpful.

SarahLouz

I also live in Oxfordshire but know of somone who declared themselves homeless and has been housed by the Council in a 3 bedroomed house which the Councils pays the rent to a private landlord for. I will kind of go against what I said in my last post now by saying mistakes do happen but some people automatcally expect to be housed/helped. I have a friend who also had the chance to get a council place by declaring herself homeless but wouldn't do it, instead she got a Shared Ownership house which she owns about 25% of, she really struggles but accepts she needs to work. She affords the Shared ownership on one (moderate) income with a child and this is in Oxford the 2nd most expensive place for housing in Britain!

scrummy_mummy_2

Pobby wrote: »

Yep.Wonder how many teen mothers would get a vote for large hand outs?

None, they're not old enough to bl***y vote!

Biffa

For what it's worth, I personally think that if we said "Right, no-one under 21 can have a council tenancy - full stop" the teenage pregnancy rate would plummet like a stone. But then I only work in housing, so what would I know??

secondtoughest

Well if someone who works in housing thinks that then... wow

I'd love to know the real statistics & breakdown of social housing: who gets what, for how long etc etc

Dylanwing

Totally agree that the system is wrong and encourages abuse, as many of my nephews/ nieces are doing. However, before doing too much moralising about working to subsidise these kids, start looking at the amount of tax loopholes that the wealthy and large Corporations exploit and the amount of tax revenues that are lost. They exploit that system. MP's exploit the unchecked expenses system. By the same token, youngsters exploit the housing/ benefits system.
To be honest, with high housing costs and the restrictions and uncertainties of private renting, who can blame them? Don't blame them, blame the morons in power who allow this to happen.