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fc123

gm47 wrote: »

If a system is set up in a certain way, then people will adapt to it. what you really mean is lie and cheat.

My niece did not get pregant by accident.......she had lifestyle choices laid out in front of her.So she chose to be a burden to taxpayers and you think that is ok !!

My son will leave uni, work and pay tax...indirectly supporting his cousins life choice. In effect, he will pay for her. Are you joking, unless your son is going to be paying max tax on a huge salary for many years will he ever come close to "paying for her".

Sorry if this offends but the truth sometimes is unpalatable

I laid out my post as facts.

My niece has made a lifestyle choice, but I don't agree with the outcome...however, my OH (this is his side of the family) and I will no doubt, mop up financial and practical problems from this scenario for years to come.

My sons life ill run parallel to hers to hers and he, hopefully, will support himself and any future offspring....my point is that his taxes will (indirectly) go towards her and babies upkeep.

I didn't say that I agreed with this...in fact, I am mighty p$$ssed off as I work like a "dawg" and we have taken little out of the pot over the years......less than some, perhaps, as we paid for schools etc

My SIL lives off the taxpayer (us).

I am totally knackered and I can't even afford any anti ageing treatments to mend all the damage that all this effort has taken on my looks.:D

Back to the OP and my niece...the point of the post is...yes there are council flats available to teenagers who choose to have babies.
Right or wrong.....there is a system set up (funded by the taxpayer...us) and some people make lifestyle choices based on what is on offer.

Curley

Oh, so this is where I went wrong!

I struggled for years to save up and pay a deposit to buy my meesly one bedroomed flat when all I had to do was to get myself pregnant, get my mother to write a letter and get a 2/3 bedroomed council house! Why they hell am I sruggling when those tax-paying idiots could be paying for me to live more comfortably?? :rolleyes:

Even if my boyfriend has "very good job so thats not the problem". :rolleyes:

neverdespairgirl

it depends on the area, as others have said.

But even if you do write a letter and say you are kicking her out, so that she is homeless, she's unlikely in lots of areas to get a flat / house immediately. She might well spend months in a run-down B and B or hostel first.

Pobby

See it all the time.Girls getting pregnant and expecting the state to sort it all out.Just about sums up the crappy society we live in.Good point about the mothers and baby units of the 70`s.Rather less appealing than a state provided home,income and support.

Responsibility is sadly lacking in this country.Pregnant teenagers are the laughing stock of their european contempories.I really wonder why i bother to work!

silvercar

In the real world, there are not empty councils houses waiting for pregnant teenagers to claim, there is a council waiting list based on need.

Anyone finding themselves homeless will be told to come back when they are actually evicted. At which point they will be given emergency accomadation. This won't be a 3 bed house, but probably a hostel with shared kitchen and bathroom. Refusal of emergency housing will render someone ineligible for housing. Once in emergency housing the applicant would be reassessed and an effort made to find appropriate housing, most likely a one-bed flat rather than a 3 bed house. Even to the point of getting a flat could take months of living with shared facilities.

epz_2

on the plus side single mums will need to get a job soon rather then wait till the youngest sprog hits 16, labour is tlking about 12, torys 4-6 i think.

i mean seriously what employer will be able to find a use for somone who gets up the duff at 17 and waits 16 years to get a job, would you pick someone like that over a school leaver/student.


the biggest problem is the govenment finding it neccicary to provide housing in the first place. if there was no social housing the govenment could give a grant to people in need and let them find thier own accomidation, there would be no waiting lists, council gettos etc.

robwend

i read the first line of this post and thought oh oh here we go:d how correct was i lol

Pobby

As I have said before,if we made this situation less palatable,perhaps bringing back mother and baby units,these girls might just think again.I know a single mother who has for the third time got herself pregnant.We understand that she is hoping for a nice 3 bedroom house instead of her 2 bedroom flat.

I have had a single mother say to me,having be given the flat and all the rest of it,we should fund the purchase of a 4 poster bed because it is ``her right``.So the situation is,these girls,who have contributed zilch expect to be given free housing and an income paid purely and simply by the tax payer.Whatever next?Maybe we should throw in an Audi TT and at least one continental holiday a year.

fc123

Pobby wrote: »

As I have said before,if we made this situation less palatable,perhaps bringing back mother and baby units,these girls might just think again.I know a single mother who has for the third time got herself pregnant.We understand that she is hoping for a nice 3 bedroom house instead of her 2 bedroom flat.

I have had a single mother say to me,having be given the flat and all the rest of it,we should fund the purchase of a 4 poster bed because it is ``her right``.So the situation is,these girls,who have contributed zilch expect to be given free housing and an income paid purely and simply by the tax payer.Whatever next?Maybe we should throw in an Audi TT and at least one continental holiday a year.

If the only option was an M + B unit, I believe my niece would not have fallen pregnant.

Gorgeous_George

Stick 'em in a trailer park out of town.

GG