What will you be stocking up on 'Just in case ' ?

OrkneyStar

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

mumf said:

I work in food retail,and when Sunday trading was revised in 1993, it opened the floodgates for weird working hours for everyone. Frankly,the shops should be shut  on a Sunday. 

I would agree with this. In the early 80s when I was at sixth form I had a Saturday job at BHS foodhall. 

Roll forward years and my own kids couldn't find the same because the grocery stores had their staff working Saturday or Sunday plus hours in the week. 

The 'Saturday job' at least in my area, disappeared. 

In my area there are still lots of younger folk working part time in shops/cafes. Local shops/cafes employ school pupils from age 14, for limited hours, and also bigger places like the Coop and Tesco offer part time contracts for over 16's.  Grocery staff will still need time off, they don't work all the weekdays, plus all the weekend days, unless they are doing overtime, so there is still room for part time jobs. 

Sorry, just catching up with this but this will be geographical area specific. I remember when I fist discovered the 'Saturday job' like I had didn't exist anymore where I live. I was buying some clothes for my eldest to take onto a school residential in yr6 (he's now 22) and got into conversation with the cashier (one of the big name supermarkets)  who said how busy it had been on the weekend and also said that ALL staff were required to work either a Saturday OR Sunday. Most retail staff here are part time. That's something else that's changed since I was young, so it's not like they're only getting 2 full days off in a working week. The cashier went onto say how that had cause an issue with her then older teenage boys who were struggling to find work because the availability needed was also during the week when they had school/work and not just 'weekend staff'. I can't think of a single cafe here that is open after around 3pm-ish. The town centre is closed 5/5.30. It's a struggle to find a coffee shop open past 4pm, certainly no independants do. 

The shops that sell alcohol prefer 18+. Often you only see job adverts asking for above 18 for this reason. That's also true of other age restricted goods. Last year at 18 DD got a p-time job in a chain bargain store. Though there was an under 18 there she was given less hours (was summer hols so not education related as to why) because if they put her on the tills there was less she was allowed to put through eg glue based items or dinner knives. 

Like I say it's area specific though. When DD was in yr11 I attended with her an evening at school about how to make the most of the year that was left and they had a guest speaker who had either won or been a finalist in The Apprentice. One of the questions she asked was who had a p-time job. No one put their hand up. She said it was the first place she'd been to that that had happened. It didn't surprise me one bit. When DD went to sixth form college, she commuted and was the only one on her course without a part-time job. Why? Because the others all lived in large cities and/or tourist areas and there was more availability in their area. 

Shops that sell alcohol alongside other items will still employ those under 18, they just need an older person to authorise alcohol sales.  Maybe the Saturday job appears 'gone' in your area, it still exists in many areas (including but not exclusively where I live).

Spendless

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

mumf said:

I work in food retail,and when Sunday trading was revised in 1993, it opened the floodgates for weird working hours for everyone. Frankly,the shops should be shut  on a Sunday. 

I would agree with this. In the early 80s when I was at sixth form I had a Saturday job at BHS foodhall. 

Roll forward years and my own kids couldn't find the same because the grocery stores had their staff working Saturday or Sunday plus hours in the week. 

The 'Saturday job' at least in my area, disappeared. 

In my area there are still lots of younger folk working part time in shops/cafes. Local shops/cafes employ school pupils from age 14, for limited hours, and also bigger places like the Coop and Tesco offer part time contracts for over 16's.  Grocery staff will still need time off, they don't work all the weekdays, plus all the weekend days, unless they are doing overtime, so there is still room for part time jobs. 

Sorry, just catching up with this but this will be geographical area specific. I remember when I fist discovered the 'Saturday job' like I had didn't exist anymore where I live. I was buying some clothes for my eldest to take onto a school residential in yr6 (he's now 22) and got into conversation with the cashier (one of the big name supermarkets)  who said how busy it had been on the weekend and also said that ALL staff were required to work either a Saturday OR Sunday. Most retail staff here are part time. That's something else that's changed since I was young, so it's not like they're only getting 2 full days off in a working week. The cashier went onto say how that had cause an issue with her then older teenage boys who were struggling to find work because the availability needed was also during the week when they had school/work and not just 'weekend staff'. I can't think of a single cafe here that is open after around 3pm-ish. The town centre is closed 5/5.30. It's a struggle to find a coffee shop open past 4pm, certainly no independants do. 

The shops that sell alcohol prefer 18+. Often you only see job adverts asking for above 18 for this reason. That's also true of other age restricted goods. Last year at 18 DD got a p-time job in a chain bargain store. Though there was an under 18 there she was given less hours (was summer hols so not education related as to why) because if they put her on the tills there was less she was allowed to put through eg glue based items or dinner knives. 

Like I say it's area specific though. When DD was in yr11 I attended with her an evening at school about how to make the most of the year that was left and they had a guest speaker who had either won or been a finalist in The Apprentice. One of the questions she asked was who had a p-time job. No one put their hand up. She said it was the first place she'd been to that that had happened. It didn't surprise me one bit. When DD went to sixth form college, she commuted and was the only one on her course without a part-time job. Why? Because the others all lived in large cities and/or tourist areas and there was more availability in their area. 

Shops that sell alcohol alongside other items will still employ those under 18, they just need an older person to authorise alcohol sales.  Maybe the Saturday job appears 'gone' in your area, it still exists in many areas (including but not exclusively where I live).

Yes I'm aware of the rules. It's just easier to employ an 18+ in the first place. Then no one has to come over and supervise restricted sales. 

OrkneyStar

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

mumf said:

I work in food retail,and when Sunday trading was revised in 1993, it opened the floodgates for weird working hours for everyone. Frankly,the shops should be shut  on a Sunday. 

I would agree with this. In the early 80s when I was at sixth form I had a Saturday job at BHS foodhall. 

Roll forward years and my own kids couldn't find the same because the grocery stores had their staff working Saturday or Sunday plus hours in the week. 

The 'Saturday job' at least in my area, disappeared. 

In my area there are still lots of younger folk working part time in shops/cafes. Local shops/cafes employ school pupils from age 14, for limited hours, and also bigger places like the Coop and Tesco offer part time contracts for over 16's.  Grocery staff will still need time off, they don't work all the weekdays, plus all the weekend days, unless they are doing overtime, so there is still room for part time jobs. 

Sorry, just catching up with this but this will be geographical area specific. I remember when I fist discovered the 'Saturday job' like I had didn't exist anymore where I live. I was buying some clothes for my eldest to take onto a school residential in yr6 (he's now 22) and got into conversation with the cashier (one of the big name supermarkets)  who said how busy it had been on the weekend and also said that ALL staff were required to work either a Saturday OR Sunday. Most retail staff here are part time. That's something else that's changed since I was young, so it's not like they're only getting 2 full days off in a working week. The cashier went onto say how that had cause an issue with her then older teenage boys who were struggling to find work because the availability needed was also during the week when they had school/work and not just 'weekend staff'. I can't think of a single cafe here that is open after around 3pm-ish. The town centre is closed 5/5.30. It's a struggle to find a coffee shop open past 4pm, certainly no independants do. 

The shops that sell alcohol prefer 18+. Often you only see job adverts asking for above 18 for this reason. That's also true of other age restricted goods. Last year at 18 DD got a p-time job in a chain bargain store. Though there was an under 18 there she was given less hours (was summer hols so not education related as to why) because if they put her on the tills there was less she was allowed to put through eg glue based items or dinner knives. 

Like I say it's area specific though. When DD was in yr11 I attended with her an evening at school about how to make the most of the year that was left and they had a guest speaker who had either won or been a finalist in The Apprentice. One of the questions she asked was who had a p-time job. No one put their hand up. She said it was the first place she'd been to that that had happened. It didn't surprise me one bit. When DD went to sixth form college, she commuted and was the only one on her course without a part-time job. Why? Because the others all lived in large cities and/or tourist areas and there was more availability in their area. 

Shops that sell alcohol alongside other items will still employ those under 18, they just need an older person to authorise alcohol sales.  Maybe the Saturday job appears 'gone' in your area, it still exists in many areas (including but not exclusively where I live).

Yes I'm aware of the rules. It's just easier to employ an 18+ in the first place. Then no one has to come over and supervise restricted sales. 

I didn't suggest you weren't aware of the rules, I pointed out why most supermarkets still happily employ under 18's. There will always be at least one other staff member in the store, often many more, who can easily supervise. It happens all the time.

GaleSF63

Frugalista said:

GaleSF63 said:

YorksLass said:

Not exactly a deliberate "stocking up" but today I got the following from the Co-op as they were on the clearance shelf at half price or less: a jar of their own mincemeat, a branded jar each of horseradish sauce and tartar sauce and a branded raspberry conserve.  All dated well into 2023 and the conserve is dated Jan 2024.  Now in my pantry.  

They probably won't put mincemeat on the shelves again till near the end of the year so it will be out of date. 
I often use out of date mincemeat - including when it's been opened (and I don't keep it in the fridge), and it gets rather dry in the jar but there's no difference when I use it. 

Sorry to labour the point but it won't be "out of date" - it will simply be past its "best before" date and will keep OK for years.  Ask me how I know!

Out of date as far as the supermarket is concerned. As for how you will know it keeps for years, yes I know in the same way as you do! 

weenancyinAmerica

I'm making a list of the non-food items we might be needing for the next. Seeing what we have to have for cleaning, personal items, cats and dogs, household. And looking around for good deals. Then trying to figure out where to store it. Those prices have been rising too.

YorksLass

They have indeed weenancyinAmerica.  Almost 1/3rd of the cost of my last grocery delivery was for household things like toilet rolls, kitchen roll, tissues, bleach etc but they were needed as we were almost out of all of them - it was just unfortunate they all ran out at the same time.     I've used the SM's own brand for a while but this time have gone down to the cheaper Basics level for the paper items and the difference between them and the dearer ones is negligible, so Basics it is from now on.

The time before that I bought a large box of soap powder, again because I was running low.  That box will probably last for about 9 months so not something I'll need to buy again soon.

We should be OK now for quite a while but I'm putting a small sum on one side each month so I have the cash there for when I need to re-order.

jennystarpepper

One thing I do miss which is not available anymore is Colman's sugar free mint sauce.  Production stopped before I knew it would not be available... would have stocked up.

We are being told to cut sugar, but sadly one of the better items gets the chop and they still sell the sell the sugar only version. 

Spendless

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

mumf said:

I work in food retail,and when Sunday trading was revised in 1993, it opened the floodgates for weird working hours for everyone. Frankly,the shops should be shut  on a Sunday. 

I would agree with this. In the early 80s when I was at sixth form I had a Saturday job at BHS foodhall. 

Roll forward years and my own kids couldn't find the same because the grocery stores had their staff working Saturday or Sunday plus hours in the week. 

The 'Saturday job' at least in my area, disappeared. 

In my area there are still lots of younger folk working part time in shops/cafes. Local shops/cafes employ school pupils from age 14, for limited hours, and also bigger places like the Coop and Tesco offer part time contracts for over 16's.  Grocery staff will still need time off, they don't work all the weekdays, plus all the weekend days, unless they are doing overtime, so there is still room for part time jobs. 

Sorry, just catching up with this but this will be geographical area specific. I remember when I fist discovered the 'Saturday job' like I had didn't exist anymore where I live. I was buying some clothes for my eldest to take onto a school residential in yr6 (he's now 22) and got into conversation with the cashier (one of the big name supermarkets)  who said how busy it had been on the weekend and also said that ALL staff were required to work either a Saturday OR Sunday. Most retail staff here are part time. That's something else that's changed since I was young, so it's not like they're only getting 2 full days off in a working week. The cashier went onto say how that had cause an issue with her then older teenage boys who were struggling to find work because the availability needed was also during the week when they had school/work and not just 'weekend staff'. I can't think of a single cafe here that is open after around 3pm-ish. The town centre is closed 5/5.30. It's a struggle to find a coffee shop open past 4pm, certainly no independants do. 

The shops that sell alcohol prefer 18+. Often you only see job adverts asking for above 18 for this reason. That's also true of other age restricted goods. Last year at 18 DD got a p-time job in a chain bargain store. Though there was an under 18 there she was given less hours (was summer hols so not education related as to why) because if they put her on the tills there was less she was allowed to put through eg glue based items or dinner knives. 

Like I say it's area specific though. When DD was in yr11 I attended with her an evening at school about how to make the most of the year that was left and they had a guest speaker who had either won or been a finalist in The Apprentice. One of the questions she asked was who had a p-time job. No one put their hand up. She said it was the first place she'd been to that that had happened. It didn't surprise me one bit. When DD went to sixth form college, she commuted and was the only one on her course without a part-time job. Why? Because the others all lived in large cities and/or tourist areas and there was more availability in their area. 

Shops that sell alcohol alongside other items will still employ those under 18, they just need an older person to authorise alcohol sales.  Maybe the Saturday job appears 'gone' in your area, it still exists in many areas (including but not exclusively where I live).

Yes I'm aware of the rules. It's just easier to employ an 18+ in the first place. Then no one has to come over and supervise restricted sales. 

I didn't suggest you weren't aware of the rules, I pointed out why most supermarkets still happily employ under 18's. There will always be at least one other staff member in the store, often many more, who can easily supervise. It happens all the time.

Yes, but you call older staff member over to put through the tills if an under 18 is serving (many moons ago I had a job in BHS foodhall)  and that is what they did). It pulls the older staff member away from what they are doing. That's why when DD last year worked at a discount shop that didn't sell alcohol but did sell other age restricted items (glue, knives, I think party poppers)  they were reluctant to put the under 18 on the till due to the amount of time she would have to call for supervision. Frequently they need the duty manager/supervisor to do this, rather than the older person on the next till leaning over. (I'm guessing this is due to store or their HO policy) It calls 'duty manager' away from their other duties and holds up the till whilst under 18 can't serve anyone. I see adverts all the time locally asking for above 18s only for this very reason. If you live where there's more inhabitants than vacancies (I live in a large deprived town) then you can take your pick when it comes to who you employ

Different geographical  areas will have different dynamics as to the vacancies they have and how they operate them. 

London_1

nipped into tesco on the way back from dropping my grandson off at work at 7.00 this morning and got a couple of tins of evaporated milk reduced to clear at 33p each and two tins of RTC carrots at 20p each  a packet of cornflakes at 60p and a couple of bottles of white vinegar at 29p each, the tinned stuff will go into my tin stash the vinegar I use for cleaning or as a conditioner in my washing machine.I had no cornflakes left at all and as I only eat them ocassionally 60p for a box was Ok for me.I probably use them more for coating chicken than for a morning cereal. But at least I know I now have nothing to buy at all for a good two weeks if not longer I have done the inventory of my freezer, fridge, and tinned cupboard and my baking cupboards with herbs spices ,jams and dried good are all fairly full. so the purse is now firmly closed for the foreseeable  

JackieO xx

tooldle

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

OrkneyStar said:

Spendless said:

mumf said:

I work in food retail,and when Sunday trading was revised in 1993, it opened the floodgates for weird working hours for everyone. Frankly,the shops should be shut  on a Sunday. 

I would agree with this. In the early 80s when I was at sixth form I had a Saturday job at BHS foodhall. 

Roll forward years and my own kids couldn't find the same because the grocery stores had their staff working Saturday or Sunday plus hours in the week. 

The 'Saturday job' at least in my area, disappeared. 

In my area there are still lots of younger folk working part time in shops/cafes. Local shops/cafes employ school pupils from age 14, for limited hours, and also bigger places like the Coop and Tesco offer part time contracts for over 16's.  Grocery staff will still need time off, they don't work all the weekdays, plus all the weekend days, unless they are doing overtime, so there is still room for part time jobs. 

Sorry, just catching up with this but this will be geographical area specific. I remember when I fist discovered the 'Saturday job' like I had didn't exist anymore where I live. I was buying some clothes for my eldest to take onto a school residential in yr6 (he's now 22) and got into conversation with the cashier (one of the big name supermarkets)  who said how busy it had been on the weekend and also said that ALL staff were required to work either a Saturday OR Sunday. Most retail staff here are part time. That's something else that's changed since I was young, so it's not like they're only getting 2 full days off in a working week. The cashier went onto say how that had cause an issue with her then older teenage boys who were struggling to find work because the availability needed was also during the week when they had school/work and not just 'weekend staff'. I can't think of a single cafe here that is open after around 3pm-ish. The town centre is closed 5/5.30. It's a struggle to find a coffee shop open past 4pm, certainly no independants do. 

The shops that sell alcohol prefer 18+. Often you only see job adverts asking for above 18 for this reason. That's also true of other age restricted goods. Last year at 18 DD got a p-time job in a chain bargain store. Though there was an under 18 there she was given less hours (was summer hols so not education related as to why) because if they put her on the tills there was less she was allowed to put through eg glue based items or dinner knives. 

Like I say it's area specific though. When DD was in yr11 I attended with her an evening at school about how to make the most of the year that was left and they had a guest speaker who had either won or been a finalist in The Apprentice. One of the questions she asked was who had a p-time job. No one put their hand up. She said it was the first place she'd been to that that had happened. It didn't surprise me one bit. When DD went to sixth form college, she commuted and was the only one on her course without a part-time job. Why? Because the others all lived in large cities and/or tourist areas and there was more availability in their area. 

Shops that sell alcohol alongside other items will still employ those under 18, they just need an older person to authorise alcohol sales.  Maybe the Saturday job appears 'gone' in your area, it still exists in many areas (including but not exclusively where I live).

Yes I'm aware of the rules. It's just easier to employ an 18+ in the first place. Then no one has to come over and supervise restricted sales. 

I didn't suggest you weren't aware of the rules, I pointed out why most supermarkets still happily employ under 18's. There will always be at least one other staff member in the store, often many more, who can easily supervise. It happens all the time.

Yes, but you call older staff member over to put through the tills if an under 18 is serving (many moons ago I had a job in BHS foodhall)  and that is what they did). It pulls the older staff member away from what they are doing. That's why when DD last year worked at a discount shop that didn't sell alcohol but did sell other age restricted items (glue, knives, I think party poppers)  they were reluctant to put the under 18 on the till due to the amount of time she would have to call for supervision. Frequently they need the duty manager/supervisor to do this, rather than the older person on the next till leaning over. (I'm guessing this is due to store or their HO policy) It calls 'duty manager' away from their other duties and holds up the till whilst under 18 can't serve anyone. I see adverts all the time locally asking for above 18s only for this very reason. If you live where there's more inhabitants than vacancies (I live in a large deprived town) then you can take your pick when it comes to who you employ

Different geographical  areas will have different dynamics as to the vacancies they have and how they operate them. 

Certainly common in my experience. In my youth I had jobs with Coop and Waitrose as well as a couple of other places. It was the norm to buzz if alcohol was coming through the tills. Someone over 18 would appear to oversee the transaction. Usually I’d hold the bottle up and wait for someone to give me the thumbs up. What is different is the opening hours.  All the shops I worked in closed at 8pm. Many are now open considerably later and I wonder if this is problematic when employing teens especially when taking into account that the majority of staff are part timers. I often did a 4-8pm shift, or sometimes a 2-8pm if I didn’t have classes. Staff with youngsters generally want to work within school hours or much later in the evening 7/8 onwards for example. 

I have a friend who started work in one of the big supermarkets during the first lockdown as her main job was furloughed. She is a picker for the internet orders and starts at 3am, working through until around 8am. Lots of short hours contracts in those roles apparently.