Offer accepted but we don’t want the hot tub

lisyloo

FreeBear said:

lisyloo said:

FreeBear said:

Sis was looking at a place that included a hot tub. My first comment - "A lifetime supply of bean soup" - As in Human Bean...

It’s no different to using a bath in a hotel.
some peoples assumptions are very weird.

But a bath is usually drained after each use, and only a single person climbs in at a time (unless you are doing small children). A hot tub could remain full for months at a time.

Only if you wish it to.
they are meant to be drained every 2 months and shared within a family (usually).
if you had a party you might choose to drain it before and/or after.
in between chlorine will be used (like a swimming pool) to keep it sanitised.
but hey it’s freedom of choice, I’ve never seen anyone having a gun held to their head to get in one :-)

it just seems weird to make up some fictitious belief about them being full of filth when there’s a chemical treatment and testing regime.

lisyloo

Btw - 98% of them are outdoors so most people don’t have sex in their gardens.

lookstraightahead

pinkshoes said:

Ms_Chocaholic said:

FreeBear said:

lisyloo said:

FreeBear said:

Sis was looking at a place that included a hot tub. My first comment - "A lifetime supply of bean soup" - As in Human Bean...

It’s no different to using a bath in a hotel.
some peoples assumptions are very weird.

But a bath is usually drained after each use, and only a single person climbs in at a time (unless you are doing small children). A hot tub could remain full for months at a time.

Well maybe think of it more like a swimming pool than a bath.

But a swimming pool holds 375,000 litres of water and perhaps 30 people, so that's 12,500 litres of water per person.

A 4 person hot tub is 1250 litres with just 4 people, so just 313 litres per person.

So swimming pools have 40 times the amount of water per person to dilute any bodily fluids that may end up in it!

Plus people are much less likely to be having sex in a public pool...!

And just to be really gross, the average ejaculation contains 300 MILLION sperm. 

So in a swimming pool you would have 800 sperm per litre, but in a hot tub 240,000 sperm per litre. 



(I guess hot tubs are not for everyone. I just find the idea of them really icky, not to mention bad for the environment as you have to keep changing the water!).

Just tell them NO THANKS! 

Yes but you mix per litre of fluid. And over the course of a week, how many people use a pool - sneezing, weeing, getting in without a shower first ...

and hopefully it will be clean water in a hot tub, not from a weeks worth of random people. 

It's probably much cleaner than sitting on a public seat somewhere.

RoseBerni

If they don’t take it and it’s a proper hottub then you will probably need a crane to remove it 
that will cost around £500 -£700
you could chop it up with a grinder and an axe and a few strong men 😂
my other half did that to our 7 seater hot tub many years ago 
took him a week to do it and a week to get over it 😂

Emerion

canaldumidi said:

Asking for money off is a no-no. You saw the property, hot tub and all, and you offered.

Is this hot tub free-standing? Easy to take out? In which case it's really an extra open to negotiation. You want it, you buy it; you don't want it you don't buy it.

Or built in and a nightmare to remove. It's part of the property and usually therefore included. Up toyou to remove it after to purchase.

It wasn’t included in the property details, and it is free-standing, so we obviously assumed that it would be going with them. The beds and sofas weren’t mentioned in the details either, and I don’t think anyone would assume that we were implicitly offering for those as well. As it’s news to us that they now don’t want it, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect them to either remove it, or take  the cost of removal off the price. And as has been pointed out below, they will probably say they’re going to take it, and then leave it. So as I’d rather not be starting another thread about getting a crane, the money off seems the only option to me. 

lookstraightahead

Emerion said:

canaldumidi said:

Asking for money off is a no-no. You saw the property, hot tub and all, and you offered.

Is this hot tub free-standing? Easy to take out? In which case it's really an extra open to negotiation. You want it, you buy it; you don't want it you don't buy it.

Or built in and a nightmare to remove. It's part of the property and usually therefore included. Up toyou to remove it after to purchase.

It wasn’t included in the property details, and it is free-standing, so we obviously assumed that it would be going with them. The beds and sofas weren’t mentioned in the details either, and I don’t think anyone would assume that we were implicitly offering for those as well. As it’s news to us that they now don’t want it, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect them to either remove it, or take  the cost of removal off the price. And as has been pointed out below, they will probably say they’re going to take it, and then leave it. So as I’d rather not be starting another thread about getting a crane, the money off seems the only option to me. 

Change the T6 ( or whatever it's called) to state they will categorically move it and that you won't exchange until they do.

I like hot tubs but it's obviously a hassle for them to move it. So get it in writing or you'll be lumbered.

You're right it's not part of fixtures and fittings.

koalakoala

Totally agree with above

Spreadsheetman

I helped a friend move a hot tub about 50 metres from where the truck dumped it and even with 6 of us it was a tough job. I'd certainly not want to get lumbered with one of those things at a property I was buying.

My friend had tried to sell the tub, but there were no buyers as a lot of people don't like s/h ones. He couldnt give it away either as no-one that wanted it could transport it, so he ended up paying to move it to his new place.

Norman_Castle

Emerion said:

canaldumidi said:

Asking for money off is a no-no. You saw the property, hot tub and all, and you offered.

Is this hot tub free-standing? Easy to take out? In which case it's really an extra open to negotiation. You want it, you buy it; you don't want it you don't buy it.

Or built in and a nightmare to remove. It's part of the property and usually therefore included. Up toyou to remove it after to purchase.

  I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect them to either remove it, or take  the cost of removal off the price.

Figure out how it got there. I'd suspect needing a crane is unusual. Is there access for removal if a fence panel is removed?

FreeBear

Norman_Castle said:

Emerion said:

canaldumidi said:

Asking for money off is a no-no. You saw the property, hot tub and all, and you offered.

Is this hot tub free-standing? Easy to take out? In which case it's really an extra open to negotiation. You want it, you buy it; you don't want it you don't buy it.

Or built in and a nightmare to remove. It's part of the property and usually therefore included. Up toyou to remove it after to purchase.

  I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect them to either remove it, or take  the cost of removal off the price.

Figure out how it got there. I'd suspect needing a crane is unusual. Is there access for removal if a fence panel is removed?

Once tipped onto its side, it doesn't need much space to move. Put a couple of skates under each end, and just two people are needed. Once by the roadside, a HIAB will get it on the back of a truck. Or if there is road access within a few metres, the HIAB could pick it from where it stands.