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Trainerman said:NCC1701-A said:
Well done Bargepole, Coupon-mad and all the regulars. I hope you get nominated in Queens honours for your services to the community.6 -
ihatetrump said:Trainerman said:NCC1701-A said:
Well done Bargepole, Coupon-mad and all the regulars. I hope you get nominated in Queens honours for your services to the community.
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street5 -
Umkomaas said:ihatetrump said:Trainerman said:NCC1701-A said:
Well done Bargepole, Coupon-mad and all the regulars. I hope you get nominated in Queens honours for your services to the community.2 -
I applaud the dedication and hard work of regulars on this site for their contribution in bringing about change.5
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Many years ago I took a tenant to curt for unpaid rent. I won and he was told to pay me circa £2000. He paid nothing and I engaged a DCA to collect the rent. I was willing to pay them 50% of the debt but they still were unable to collect a penny.You never know how far you can go until you go too far.3
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Very happy with this outcome. Fully expect to see the PPCs try Judicial Review, so time will tell.
But the decisions are far from illogical (one of the reasons for JR).
It took a great deal of knowledge, research and effort. All those who wrote to your MPs and responded to the Public Consultations - KUDOS!Huge thanks to @bargepole for sterling work in the early days of the 2019 Act and for all your ongoing work.
Some of you may have been wondering during the past 18 months about this...
...I can't talk about the 'work of the Steering Group' or any other participants and didn't say this before but yes, I was a participant (the only individual consumer not representing an organisation) and never missed a meeting.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD26 -
Some of you may have been wondering during the past 18 months about this...Then an extra big thank you for your wonderful work and what a great outcome.
...I can't talk about the 'work of the Steering Group' or any other participants and didn't say this before but yes, I was a participant (the only individual consumer not representing an organisation) and never missed a meeting.
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Coupon-mad said:Very happy with this outcome. Fully expect to see the PPCs try Judicial Review, so time will tell.
But the decisions are far from illogical (one of the reasons for JR).
It took a great deal of knowledge, research and effort. All those who wrote to your MPs and responded to the Public Consultations - KUDOS!Huge thanks to @bargepole for sterling work in the early days of the 2019 Act and for all your ongoing work.
Some of you may have been wondering during the past 18 months about this...
...I can't talk about the 'work of the Steering Group' or any other participants and didn't say this before but yes, I was a participant (the only individual consumer not representing an organisation) and never missed a meeting.
There is no illegality in the decision, and the illogical ground has such a high bar to get over and that only leaves them the ground of Procedural unfairness, so time will tell.
https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/guides/judicial-review
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It would be difficult to overstate the importance of @Coupon-mad 's contribution to the Steering Group, which was largely responsible for getting to this point.
The parking industry probably thought that they could feed the Government their usual BS propaganda, and end up with a cut-and-paste CoP which was an amalgamation of the current BPA and IPC versions, with very little change to the current status quo.
But that has proved to be not the case, and unlike in the lead-up to POFA 2012, where the BPA falsely inflated court claim figures by a factor of 100, the Government were not going to be fooled again.
Ironically, it was the whinging by the industry about the lower level capped charges, that led to the further consultation in August 2021. That consultation also raised the issue of the added £70 debt collection fees, which were robustly opposed by consumer groups, and MPs. During the last few months, the Department clearly did a U-turn on that issue, and rightly so,
I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.15 -
bargepole said:It would be difficult to overstate the importance of @Coupon-mad 's contribution to the Steering Group, which was largely responsible for getting to this point.
The parking industry probably thought that they could feed the Government their usual BS propaganda, and end up with a cut-and-paste CoP which was an amalgamation of the current BPA and IPC versions, with very little change to the current status quo.
But that has proved to be not the case, and unlike in the lead-up to POFA 2012, where the BPA falsely inflated court claim figures by a factor of 100, the Government were not going to be fooled again.
Ironically, it was the whinging by the industry about the lower level capped charges, that led to the further consultation in August 2021. That consultation also raised the issue of the added £70 debt collection fees, which were robustly opposed by consumer groups, and MPs. During the last few months, the Department clearly did a U-turn on that issue, and rightly so,4
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