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Royal Mail barcoding stamps - existing stamps valid only until 31 Jan 2023
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HonestJohn said:GDB2222 said:HonestJohn said:GDB2222 said:HonestJohn said:RM can do what they want. They will not return the so called fakes. They are judge, jury and executioner. LIke they don't make mistakes.
My impression is that the RM employees dealing with this are very meticulous. It's unlikely they are wrong.
I think you should simply accept that you bought fakes, and you have been tumbled. If you bought them in good faith, paying full price, you still bought fakes, but I am sorry for you.
If you bought an obvious fake on ebay, paying flumpence in the pound and hoping to defraud RM, you have only yourself to blame.
Presumably, you have a photo of the UV scan, so can you post that please?
I agree that RM are not above the law, but neither are you. You can't expect to have fake stamps returned. Have you asked RM whether you can send your own expert to examine the stamps at the RM office? I doubt many people would want to do that, though, because of the cost.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
HonestJohn said:GDB2222 said:HonestJohn said:GDB2222 said:HonestJohn said:RM can do what they want. They will not return the so called fakes. They are judge, jury and executioner. LIke they don't make mistakes.
My impression is that the RM employees dealing with this are very meticulous. It's unlikely they are wrong.
I think you should simply accept that you bought fakes, and you have been tumbled. If you bought them in good faith, paying full price, you still bought fakes, but I am sorry for you.
If you bought an obvious fake on ebay, paying flumpence in the pound and hoping to defraud RM, you have only yourself to blame.
Presumably, you have a photo of the UV scan, so can you post that please?
Also, comparing the perforations and watermarks (presume you mean phosphor) to other stamps won’t be conclusive - some are specific to the class/type of stamp and if they are inconsistent with the class of stamp, that will be a flag.
some of the security features are pretty sophisticated (even before the addition of bar codes) and would require detailed knowledge and perhaps specialist tools to confirm that everything was as it should be. I don’t know if you have that knowledge or tools but if you do, I’d be submitting your evidence to Royal Mail to demonstrate that all of the security features did indeed check out.Northern Ireland club member No 382 :j3 -
I checked my stamps because I had heard of other's experiences and did some research. I am no expert so could only go so far. I don't think it is too much to ask for my stamps back. They could cancel them somehow. How do I accuse the seller of fraud without the evidence. I could imagine the furore if the Bank of England issued coins and notes with telling you how to identify fakes. The whole sorting machine industry would be non existent.Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein0
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HonestJohn said:I checked my stamps because I had heard of other's experiences and did some research. I am no expert so could only go so far. I don't think it is too much to ask for my stamps back. They could cancel them somehow. How do I accuse the seller of fraud without the evidence. I could imagine the furore if the Bank of England issued coins and notes with telling you how to identify fakes. The whole sorting machine industry would be non existent.
I'm pretty sure that it would be a criminal offence for you to own stamps knowing or suspecting them to be fake, if they did return them.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
GDB2222 said:HonestJohn said:I checked my stamps because I had heard of other's experiences and did some research. I am no expert so could only go so far. I don't think it is too much to ask for my stamps back. They could cancel them somehow. How do I accuse the seller of fraud without the evidence. I could imagine the furore if the Bank of England issued coins and notes with telling you how to identify fakes. The whole sorting machine industry would be non existent.
I'm pretty sure that it would be a criminal offence for you to own stamps knowing or suspecting them to be fake, if they did return them.Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning. Albert Einstein0 -
'I'm pretty sure that it would be a criminal offence for you to own stamps knowing or suspecting them to be fake, if they did return them. "
some stamp collectors specialise in collecting fakes etc so only an offence if you try and use them for postage1 -
I assume that prepaid stamps on envelopes are still valid?
I still have a pack of 10 envelopes with 1st class postage printed on them.
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From RM site:-
What happens to the pre-paid envelopes I currently have?
These are valid for postage and will remain valid on an ongoing basis.
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Hello
Bit late to the party here ... I have small books of old Royal Mail stamps (1 with Queen's head only, the other with the band Queen).
Can I still swap these for the new stamps ?
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You can. Royal Mail put a final date on when they need to be used by but there’s no end date for swapping them over.All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.0
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