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Daughter received four PCN’s

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  • marleybhoy
    marleybhoy Posts: 28 Forumite
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    edited 2 February 2022 at 4:04PM
    Trying to upload latest letter 

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  • Hi just realised I’ve left name and address in can admin please remove photo and I’ll add the correct one

    thankyou 
  • or if someone can tell me how to delete the photo please
  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,274 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 2 February 2022 at 3:52PM
    You might have sufficient posts and time under your belt to edit your own posts now.  If you can see a small cog wheel on the right hand side of the blue bar, you can.  If not send a PM to a board guide @Savvy or @soolin and ask one of them if they wold be so kind as to take it down.  There are no admins.

  • Thankyou I have message soolin
    I stupidly sent wrong photo
  • I’ll upload the correct one now 
  • Trainerman
    Trainerman Posts: 1,329 Forumite
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    Yes but it is just another attempt to frighten you into paying. I would put that in the hamster's cage and wait and see if anything real arrives
    The pen is mightier than the sword ..... and I have many pens.
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
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    Balance outstanding £170

    They have added what appears to be an extra unlawful amount for debt collection.

    This amounts to double recovery and Judges all over the country are dismissing these spurious additions. Indeed some judges have dismissed entire claims because of this. Read this and complain to Trading Standards and your MP,

    Excel v Wilkinson

    At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0
    However, VCS appealed this so it may not apply in all cases, read this
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/ntksx9g7177ahyg/VCS v Percy v1 Amendments (2).pdf?dl=0Also read this
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6279348/witness-statements-2-transcripts-re-parking-firms-false-costs-recorder-cohen-qc-judgment-2021/p1
    Also this,

    "Abuse of process – the quantum

    13. In addition to the disputed Parking Charge Notice claim amount of £100, the Claimant has added a sum of £60 that is disingenuously described variously as 'debt collection costs', ‘additional charges levied to cover the cost of recovery’, ‘additional administration costs’, ‘debt recovery costs’, ‘initial legal costs’ and ‘recovery costs’. The added £60 constitutes double recovery and the court is invited to find the quantum claimed is false and an abuse of process as was found by District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) in Excel vs Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, a similar case in which £60 had been added to a parking charge, heard in July 2020 (the transcript of which is exhibit XX-04). The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'. Leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued."


    Also consider complaining to The SRA about the solicitor, if one is involved They are fully aware of the unlawful nature of most of thse additions yet persist in adding them..

    https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/

    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Thankyou I’ll let daughter know 
  • Thankyou yeah that’s £170 x 4 which is a fair amount and that’s why I think they will not let her away with it
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