GLADSTONES - Case Management Hearing - OUTCOME - UPDATED

Coupon-mad

Did you just report your concerns by email?  There is something about the monies taken by PPC World that I want to get HMRC to look at.

ihatetrump

No - you can do it all online - you have to identify yourself - but under the assurance it is confidential.

Here's the link:

https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/TEH_IRF

Coupon-mad

Happy to ID myself.  The only PPC to escape this report will be ParkingEye so you can guess what I am reporting as possible VAT avoidance.  I will pick a couple of PPCs as examples.

ihatetrump

The only PPC to escape this report will be ParkingEye so you can guess what I am reporting as possible VAT avoidance. 

Good on you!

Minor point - Tax avoidance is a legal strategy - even though many feel it may be unethical. On the other hand, tax evasion of any form is illegal and those who don't pay it deserve everything coming to them - Rishi needs every penny he can lay his hands on at the moment - what better place to start than with the ill-gotten gains of many (not all) PPC's.

Coupon-mad

Yes of course, I got the wrong term but haven't done the report yet.

Doing this first as it closes in a few days:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6320581/please-respond-regulars-on-parking-board-new-and-fairer-pap-needed-for-parking-cases

Really important, that's a chance to align a bespoke PAP with the new Code of Practice.

ParkingMad

Umkomaas said:

Just looked for the Judgment on the solicitors' tribunal website - not there yet. No doubt that will reveal more details, in due course. 

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere (but I couldn’t find it).

https://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/solicitor-check/559050/


Link to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal judgment:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7g11idebhr10me0m2q8o0/12265.2021.Gladstones-Limited.pdf?rlkey=femmokymeqmbwd2sno6uxt4fp&dl=0

https://www.solicitorstribunal.org.uk/sites/default/files-sdt/12265.2021.Gladstones%20Limited.pdf

https://solicitorstribunal.org.uk/case/12265/

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/firm-fined-for-dumping-1200-unallocated-payments-into-holding-account/5111135.article

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/sdt-and-sra-interventions/decisions-and-interventions/5111899.article

Paragraph 62 of the SDT judgment:

The Firm received on average 3500 payments per month from motorists equating to £600,000 per month and the unidentified payments allocated to the suspense ledger was £10,000 per month. 

The judgment says that Gladstones had almost 330,000 debt referrals from 64 parking operators between March 2017 and June 2020. At £60 each, that’s about £20 million.

Coupon-mad

ParkingMad said:

Umkomaas said:

Just looked for the Judgment on the solicitors' tribunal website - not there yet. No doubt that will reveal more details, in due course. 

Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere (but I couldn’t find it).

Link to the Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal judgment:

https://www.solicitorstribunal.org.uk/sites/default/files-sdt/12265.2021.Gladstones%20Limited.pdf
 
The judgment says that Gladstones had almost 330,000 debt referrals from 64 parking operators between March 2017 and June 2020. At £60 each, that’s quite a substantial amount.

The evidence and facts and figures in that Judgment, including the quote of Gladstones apparently saying about the consumer 'it was her fault' needs to be sent to the DLUHC by anyone still doing Call for Evidence submissions. 

This is useful data that they may not have, about Gladstones.  

It also begs the question, where did the VAT on the £60 DRA fee add-ons go?  If the monies all sat on a holding account and then they refunded some and couldn't match the rest (which they gave to charity) where's the mention of VAT being paid on it all?

VAT applies to debt recovery and admin fees.  Why is it not mentioned in the judgment facts?  How could monies received just sit in a holding account?  HMRC should be shown this judgment and asked to take a look.